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Check Essential 02-02-2011 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 940973)
What still concerns me is that we have an MEC Chairman who was our lead negotiator when this language was included in the JCBA, this same individual argued against a resolution who's main purpose was to shine a brighter light on scope,

O'Malley's speech at that LEC meeting was seriously disturbing.
I hope he has revised his views concerning the line pilots' right to know the facts about our scope clause.

johnso29 02-02-2011 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 940973)
Exactly my point. It appears that the net effect of this is to increase RJ jobs and decrease mainline jobs.

I fully understand what is in the contract and that this is what we agreed to. I'm not so sure that a large percentage of our pilots fully realized what they were voting for. I can say that, personally, I never realized until now that this loophole existed where they can keep all the RJ's after parking mainline aircraft and not be over the limit. I guess I didn't pay that much attention to it because I already knew I was voting NO based on a lack of any significant progress towards restoration. But that's water under the bridge at this point.

What still concerns me is that we have an MEC Chairman who was our lead negotiator when this language was included in the JCBA, this same individual argued against a resolution who's main purpose was to shine a brighter light on scope, and as MEC Chairman so far he has demonstrated very little passion or even interest in scope.

We have some seriously junior guys on our new NC, & 2 are FNWA DTW guys. It's going to be a lot harder to get the camels nose further under the tent IMO.

johnso29 02-02-2011 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 940957)

I found this app on my iPhone the other day, & have wasted countless hours looking at these. LMAO!!

Reroute 02-02-2011 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 940939)
I think you're right. The 16 MD90's we already had would be included in the original baseline #.

Just to be clear, the mainline fleet number has 19 MD-90s in it. We have contracts for and deliveries of 30 more over the next 18 months. How many we ultimately get might be more than that.

johnso29 02-02-2011 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 941038)
Just to be clear, the mainline fleet number has 19 MD-90s in it. We have contracts for and deliveries of 30 more over the next 18 months. How many we ultimately get might be more than that.

Thanks for the clarification.

Reroute 02-02-2011 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 940973)

What still concerns me is that we have an MEC Chairman who was our lead negotiator when this language was included in the JCBA, this same individual argued against a resolution who's main purpose was to shine a brighter light on scope, and as MEC Chairman so far he has demonstrated very little passion or even interest in scope.

I saw him at a recent LEC meeting, he talked extensively about scope and the scope challenges we'll face in the future. I got the impression he has a great deal of passion and interest in scope, as does the MEC in general.

DAL 88 Driver 02-02-2011 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 941048)
I saw him at a recent LEC meeting, he talked extensively about scope and the scope challenges we'll face in the future. I got the impression he has a great deal of passion and interest in scope, as does the MEC in general.

That's encouraging.

Razorback flyer 02-02-2011 06:04 PM

Maybe someone can help me fill in the blanks here, and clarify the situation. (They gave us these exact numbers at the last CVG LEC meeting, but I didn't write them down - and they've changed. Maybe they'll do a brief again at the next one on Friday.)

Current Mainline fleet count: ?

Mainline fleet count to add additional "71+"(i.e. 76) seat jets: 767
(can be added at 3 to 1 ratio w/mainline AC # 768)

Current DCI "71+" seat jet cap: 153
Current DCI "71+" seat jet count: 153

Current DCI "51+" (i.e. 70) seat jet cap*: 255
(*includes 153 "71+" seat jets)
Current DCI "51+" seat jet count: ?

acl65pilot 02-02-2011 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Razorback flyer (Post 941060)
Maybe someone can help me fill in the blanks here, and clarify the situation. (They gave us these exact numbers at the last CVG LEC meeting, but I didn't write them down - and they've changed. Maybe they'll do a brief again at the next one on Friday.)

Current Mainline fleet count: ?

Mainline fleet count to add additional "71+"(i.e. 76) seat jets: 767
(can be added at 3 to 1 ratio w/mainline AC # 768)

Current DCI "71+" seat jet cap: 153
Current DCI "71+" seat jet count: 153

Current DCI "51+" (i.e. 70) seat jet cap*: 255
(*includes 153 "71+" seat jets)
Current DCI "51+" seat jet count: ?

Current 51+ seat count as of a few the C44 Scope report is:

363 CRJ-200's
101 CRJ-900's
70 CRJ-700's
52 EMB-175's
24 EJR-145's
Equals:
-610 50+ Seat jet
-or 223 70+ Seat jets (Your question)

With the announcements made recently it should equal 235 70+ seat jets. Max of 255.

Boomer 02-02-2011 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Splash (Post 940656)
There was a similar announcement about mainline replacements on DeltaNet around the same time.

Just to avoid any confusion, there is a big difference between "Mainline Replacements" and "Replacements for Mainline"

Watch where they put the commas before you vote.


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