... and while he stayed up at night worried about how much pilots were being paid for their work, his staff was writing checks in the millions to Mesa for work they had never performed. Mesa was paid performance bonuses over $3 million when their performance was so substandard that Delta eventually canceled their contract. Here's a brief recap for anyone interested in the details.

http://www.bnet.com/blog/airline-bus...confusion/1804

Personally, hes very likely a fine gentleman. But, he had no business criticizing pilots doing their job while his employees in his department did not do their job.

He goes to my church. If it weren't for Delta (ironically), I was going to a leadership conference that he's speaking at on Monday.

Crew scheduling said "no, we're giving you an 8pm sign in the evening that you get back from a redeye at 6am." Bless their hearts.

No, the number flown isn't the problem.....Too many that aren't flown by pilots on OUR list IS the problem.

Frankly, the last group you need to worry about "feeling lucky" are the "ex drooling RJ drivers."

I know....Carl and I agreed on something earlier too. It's like I just threw up in my mouth a little.:D




(Kidding, I actually like Carl's passion, and I am glad that we can agree to disagree, and also agree to agree once in a while also!)

Uhhhhh...why would ex-RJ drivers care about this....

Thanks for pointing out what tricks the company has up it's sleeves...didn't see any of them coming. I don't think you have to worry about any of the junior folk afraid to vote no...I would worry about a certain percentage of others on the seniority list.

Thanks for the support Scambo - I thought you were my friend...WAAAAAAA!!!!

Baja.

I couldn't agree with your post more! It was a dark time here and I too am glad it's behind us. But, you know what they say, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it! We need to keep our eyes open and our powder dry!!:cool:

Denny

And when his staff wasn't cutting checks for Mesa they were paying retention bonuses for management types that mostly left anyway. :mad: I wonder how many bonus $$$$$ were paid back? :confused:

Scoop

Not future looking if the net increase is due to more WB A and less NB A.

I find it disingenuous when the talking heads try and portray a net loss of domestic NB flying to fewer RJ's (but more 76 seaters) as a "win" because it shifts the demographic curve more towards WB flying. Nice if you are in the seniority to get those extra WB A seats. Nice for junior F/O's who will get a WB B sooner, but still a net loss.

For the lower half of the list it means a lot longer in the right seat, where those pay raises we might get don't mean as much. I'd like to see a career earnings spreadsheet for several represeantive careers where the first A upgrade occurred in shifting year by year increments. Saw something like this at brand X, and the final analysis was you make more in career earnings with an upgrade than you do with incremental pay increases.