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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 942438)

This is really quite funny. So you are saying it's better to have more pilots on your list on furlough? In order to make you happy, we should hire 1,000 pilots and have them on furlough so you can say we have more pilots? I am saying its great we are taking pilots from non-flying positions to flying positions and that is pro-management? This is just the silliest thing I have heard.

In January of 2010 we had 509,924 pilot credit hours which required 2,274 wide body Captains and 2,103 narrow body captains.

In January of 2011 we had 559,151 pilot credit hours which required 2,372 wide body Captains and 2,208 narrow body captains.

Which of those numbers is disturbing or pro management? I am talking about flying MORE hours and needing more pilots. I could give a damn how many airplanes it takes to do it, THAT is management's job. Our hours are growing and we need more pilots, and pal that is the ONLY furlough protection you will ever have that makes a difference. Management is buying 50 MD-90's and I think there are only 5 or 6 on the line right now. Each MD-90 will produce many more pilot jobs than one DC-9.

Why don't you just admit you are wrong? The trend is going in the right direction. We are adding more mainline pilot hours and requiring more pilots. I don't care about total pilot count because we are moving pilots from non flying status to flying status. Isn't that good? Didn't pilots get hired to fly Delta jets and not sit on Mil Leave (thanks for your service, in no way am I trying to denigrate being on Mil Leave) or Furlough Bypass.

As for the BOD rep election, who cares really. We have new reps coming in all the time. If you waited until the MEC was fixed, you would never have an election. Why don't you find something else to cry about, the topics seem endless for you. Time to go get some food, pick up is in a few hours.

Hey, why don't post the Block hours, not the credit hours. TONS of credit hour slop still in the sysytem post merger, particularly in the Pac Ops. Credit hours are meaningless as a growth benchmark as they work to eliminate that from the bottom line.

I know the announcement of accelerated DC9 retirements raises a lot of questions, and I don’t have a whole lot of details for you right now. I assure you that as I get more information on the timeline and how we will actually execute the retirement schedule, I will share it with you directly. We’ll also need to see what effect the retirements will have on block hours and it’s effect on you out on the line. But, as Ed Bastian stated at the leadership meeting and later this week with analysts, we expect to retire the DC9 fleet over the next 12 to 24 months and use the previously announced MD90 acquisitions to replace the capacity in the system and still allow for planned growth.

Hmmmmmm.
The math is suspect. Also, examine the verbage of "over the next 12 to 24 months" Even $$$ says the next AE flushes the 9 category by 75% to 100%.

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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 942374)

I find it disingenuous when the talking heads try and portray a net loss of domestic NB flying to fewer RJ's (but more 76 seaters) as a "win" because it shifts the demographic curve more towards WB flying. Nice if you are in the seniority to get those extra WB A seats. Nice for junior F/O's who will get a WB B sooner, but still a net loss.

The fact is that the number of mainline flying jobs have increased in the last year. Including mainline narrow body. The company hasn't taken delivery of a 76 seat RJ in over a year, but it has parked dozens of RJs in the last year.

Should those 76 seat jobs be mainline jobs, sure, but you don't have to invent your own facts to make that case.

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Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 942517)

Straight no-spin talk from ...

Management.

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Originally Posted by mmaviator (Post 942498)

Delta, three E.U. airlines sued by U.S. passengers over delays | The Salt Lake Tribune

Forgive if it's a repost of the article and bad news.

I hope they aren't suing over international flights, because I'm pretty sure they don't apply. Or maybe that's just international arrivals. And I hope they know the clock ISN'T ticking while the airplane is at the gate with the door open.

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 941844)

If you look at the bid monitor report, you will see that in Jan 2010 our staffing formula required 9301 pilots. In January 2011 it's 9911.

Glad to see that the pilots required number is increasing, but damn if it ain't depressing to have a seniority number greater than the number of pilots required after 12 years on the property...:(

I was able to fill in some blanks with info from the “aircraft fleet information” Document. If you have time, do a search for it on deltanet. Very interesting reading (especially the “aircraft in storage.”)

Anyway, info is as of January 1, 2011

Total mainline fleet count: (not in storage) 728
(notes: 176 WB/552 NB. This includes all 34 DC-9-50's, as well as 5 DC-9-40's that were already scheduled to retire this year.)
Total (listed) mainline fleet orders: 31
(notes: orders listed are 1 757-200, 5 A319's, 2 A320's, and 23 MD-90's. The MD-90 figure would include the 9 from China Eastern that are stuck in the mod line, plus an additional 14. I didn’t include the 787 orders - I think we all know the story there.)
(Also, anybody know what’s up with the listed orders for 5 319's and 2 A320's?)

DCI:
Total DCI in service: 634
Total DCI <51 seats: 411 (26* prop/385 jet - no PWA cap)
(*skywest also operates 12 “branded” (i.e. painted “Skywest” not “Delta connection” EMB120's)
Total DCI >51 seats: 223 (PWA cap = 255. # to cap = 32)
(notes: includes 153 aircraft >70 seats. Does not include 7 E170 (70 seats) to be operated by Republic. # to cap with those jets is 25.)
Total DCI >70 seats = 153 (PWA cap = 153)
(notes: all props and 60 crj100/200 to be parked.)

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If you take away the DC-9-40's, (again, scheduled to retire this year - I believe this quarter, actually,) the mainline fleet count is 723. Even if you add Ed's 30 MD-90's plus the existing “order book” (8 - again, excluding the 787,) and the mainline fleet will be at 766 airplanes - 2 frames short of the magical number they need to add more 76 seat jets. And That’s if they keep all the DC-9-50's until ALL of the new MD-90's get here.

Also worth noting is that the 255 cap is a hard cap, regardless of the mainline fleet size. So if they elect to add 25 more 70 seaters to get to that cap now, they’ll have to retire 70 seaters later if the mainline fleet grows and allows more 76 seaters.

Also interesting to note: the aircraft fleet info doc lists that we have 12 MD-90's "in storage."

Also, it was mentioned at the CVG LEC meeting yesterday that flight ops has finished the new/revised commuting policy, and something should be forthcoming from them this week.

Nice info. Thanks for sharing Razorback. :)

For the fleet info stuff, thank forgot to bid. He's the one that pointed out the existance of the handy little document.