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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 942891)
Carl, I think that is an EXCELLENT national philosophy. What Capt. Moak just said was, "If you, Delta ALPA, sell out scope for higher pay rates then your contract is focused 'solely on self-interests and will inevitably lower the high standards that this union has established for eight decades and in the end hurt all of us.'" How true!
What's not to like about that? By my line of thinking, any contract that increases outsourcing to the lowest bidder violates his objective, and thus he has offered national level resources to ensure the greater good for the entire profession. Anyone who thinks the greater good rests with more outsourcing to the lowest bidder is wrong; and no where in his statement does he indicate that is his purpose. Similarly, any regional contract that tries to undermine a fellow regional is also focused "solely on self-interests and will inevitably lower the high standards that this union has established for eight decades and in the end hurt all of us" and thus, is also, against national ALPA policy. PG; LM cannot help but to be a breath of fresh air leadership-wise from our two previous Nat'l Chairs - two absolute disasters IMO. You have repeatedly sounded the trumpet that higher payrates are unsustainable at least not C2K (forget COLA). My guess is you are just trying to counter Carl because he posted one side of the spectrum's opinion. The truth is, LM's quote was vague enough that it could be taken many ways. The greater good of the profession is certainly difficult to nail down - who's agenda is going to be GREATER in a good way? |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 942900)
PG;
LM cannot help but to be a breath of fresh air leadership-wise from our two previous Nat'l Chairs - two absolute disasters IMO. You have repeatedly sounded the trumpet that higher payrates are unsustainable at least not C2K (forget COLA).
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 942900)
My guess is you are just trying to counter Carl because he posted one side of the spectrum's opinion.
The truth is, LM's quote was vague enough that it could be taken many ways. The greater good of the profession is certainly difficult to nail down - who's agenda is going to be GREATER in a good way? |
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
(Post 942891)
What's not to like about that? By my line of thinking, any contract that increases outsourcing to the lowest bidder violates his objective, and thus he has offered national level resources to ensure the greater good for the entire profession. Anyone who thinks the greater good rests with more outsourcing to the lowest bidder is wrong; and no where in his statement does he indicate that is his purpose. Similarly, any regional contract that tries to undermine a fellow regional is also focused "solely on self-interests and will inevitably lower the high standards that this union has established for eight decades and in the end hurt all of us" and thus, is also, against national ALPA policy.
In other words, isn't taking it back from the regionals as undermining as giving it out? In SuperSunday terms, a good defense is necessary to stop the advance, however, you need to ultimately advance the ball in the other direction to win. Football isn't a zero sum game. |
Question for those with more reserve know how than me, I have a PR partial payback day tomorrow Mon, and I'm on an X day today. That means I'm off until my partial pay back day ends tomorrow at 18:55 then back to long call correct? Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 942900)
The truth is, LM's quote was vague enough that it could be taken many ways. The greater good of the profession is certainly difficult to nail down - who's agenda is going to be GREATER in a good way?
But the main point is that Moak believes ALPA national has the right and the obligation to determine what a local's contract should be as it relates to the rest of the industry's "greater good." This is the most revealing and troubling part. He unwittingly lays out the truth for everyone to see. The truth is that local leadership does not negotiate their own contracts. ALPA national provides all the money and the vast majority of the resources. Lee just said that ALPA national's highest priority in collective bargaining is to use those resources at national to ENSURE that local contracts benefit the "greater good." Carl |
Originally Posted by Too Tall
(Post 942906)
Question for those with more reserve know how than me, I have a PR partial payback day tomorrow Mon, and I'm on an X day today. That means I'm off until my partial pay back day ends tomorrow at 18:55 then back to long call correct? Thanks in advance.
A partial day is just like an X day. Only the end time is different so the traditional 1500 schedule check time is different also. The deadline for crew scheduling to put something on your line is 9 hours prior to the end of the PB day and the deadline for for the schedule check is 2 hours after your payback day ends. The earliest you could be required to report or start short call is 5 hours after your PB day ends. The rules are the same as any "last X day". Its just that midnight is not the magic hour. Kinda confusing but I hope that was helpful. |
My niece is looking for a job with the TSA. On their website it shows pay scales reaching $155,500 per year. Toll collecter making $90,000 per year. If we don't get a hugh payraise then we need better negotiaters.
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Its Super Bowl Sunday. We need some cheerleaders or something.
How about some Pam? |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 942732)
The older guy in the middle is obviously an ER Captain with his young FA girlfriend (on the left). The guy on the right is a junior FO on the ER with his Cougar FA girlfriend. I mean, they ARE wearing Red Dresses - jeesh guys. You can't tell from the angle of the shot, but they are wearing their Sub Commander suits. ;) The guy in the middle? The gay FA that everyone gets along with. |
Originally Posted by flh57
(Post 942927)
My niece is looking for a job with the TSA. On their website it shows pay scales reaching $155,500 per year. Toll collecter making $90,000 per year. If we don't get a hugh payraise then we need better negotiaters.
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