I define it the same way Bar does. In fact Lee defines unity correctly too. It is about the profession as a whole. Isolationism may work for short term gains, but long term, it will hurt your pilot group, and the profession as a whole.

You talk about fighting one enemy versus two, but the simple fact is that all of the issues we have with small jet operators are dealt with internally within ALPA. There is a tangible benefit to that. Going independent will actually, over time, cause you fight multiple on multiple fronts, with a opposition that may not agree with each other but their goal is the same; your flying. Dealing with all of these issues within a National organization is the way to go. I prefer to do that versus fight these groups at the table with our company or in a court of law.

Reading the transcripts of all of the Executive Boards from the 1930's on, gives me the appreciation of these issues, and how they have plagued the profession since the inception. At all times the Board was cognizant that their actions could harm the profession as a whole. Making decisions that benefit the group were always the goal. This is ever present in all of these board meetings.

Congratulations Buzz and the Green Bay Packers!!! :D


Who in the world is this favre guy you were missing? :rolleyes:

That Brett Favre guy did great!!




:D

i thought the ads were a solid D. I guess ailen movies are 'in'? The halftime show... if it had been will.i.am and elmo I'd been there with a 2 year old, otherwise, glad I missed it. Fergie freaks me out.

I'm betting Aguilerra was high

Maybe she was. But Tom Petty probably was too when he did halftime a few years ago but he rocked.


But thats probably because Tom Petty rocks.

So how about some Tom Petty and Bo Diddley?

Okay, if you have a D on your rotation that's a deadhead, should I believe that a G is ground transportation deadhead? Saw in open time a trip that had a G from MEM to Greenville's paint shop and it was NOT a short ride.

Agreed!! :D

What national thinks is good for us, or Moak? That statement was way to open ended. What are the specifics that are for the greater good of the industry and who exactly gets to define them?

It's about 2.5 to 3 hours depending on the driver and traffic. They used to drive us back and forth quite a few times. It's really not that bad. I used to do those Greenville runs a lot when we were sending a DC-9 a week thru there. Of course the only time we would get a ride down or back was when the Saab was delayed significantly or it had cancelled all together....which, come to think of it, was pretty often. The guy in G-Ville that runs the limo company will invite you out on his boat and to his house for beers. He took us (Captain and I) to the Greenville Yacht Club one night for their staek Buffet. He introduced us to everybody in town as his Delta Pilot friends. It was hillarious. The food was not quite as funny!:eek:

In the union business, Unity means representing all pilots with one, authoritative, voice to management. Unity is having the absolute control over the productive capacity of the Company.