Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 940296)

We decided not to go to arbitration because there was zero upside to that choice. We could only loose. The company agreed to Dalpa's interpretation of the scope section going forward. They got to keep the extra RJ's. At the time with the jets being delivered the company would have been legal for those extra RJ's before we could get done with the arbitration.
We also got some limited furlough protection. Not one Delta pilot even the most hard core scope hawks has told me that this was a bad choice after they actually read the decision and the facts behind it.
Had we gone to arbitration and won with a slam dunk the company would have then been legal to keep the aircraft anyway with the projected increase in mainline fleet numbers. Had we lost the company would have been able to carry even more RJ's for however long the scope section remained in future contracts. With the number of MD-90's now owned by Delta the agreement is limiting the RJ's now allowed. You want to fight smart not stupid.

Originally Posted by fartboxflyer (Post 940332)

watch for increased numbers of 76 seat jets attempted on the next round. Just hope ALPA doesn't sell it as " look, they got rid of x number of 50 seaters so this isn't really an increase, we actually got rid of RJ's.....this just allows the company to make more money that will allow us to BLAH BLAH BLAH."

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 940334)

Exactly. Oh and they are good for the mainline. And we will get a solid no furlough clause. And if we grow they can add more, but if we shrink they get to keep them. Maybe we can go up to 84 seats, which is just an E190 with first class. It will give us a competitive advantage! Weeeeeee!

ALPA/DALPA must prove to the membership that they are serious about scope. The epic fails of the past must not be repeated.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 940299)

Okay. Thanks for the information. At the very least, this shows us that the company still wants to outsource all of us even though the company is preaching insourcing.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 940334)

Exactly. Oh and they are good for the mainline. And we will get a solid no furlough clause. And if we grow they can add more, but if we shrink they get to keep them. Maybe we can go up to 84 seats, which is just an E190 with first class. It will give us a competitive advantage! Weeeeeee!

ALPA/DALPA must prove to the membership that they are serious about scope. The epic fails of the past must not be repeated.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 940336)

Vote no on anything without scope recapture.

Most of us are realistic enough to realize DALPA will put some thing (scope) concessionary in front of us. It is up to us to turn it down.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 940339)

I have never heard the company preach insourcing for pilots, I don't think there is any question they would like to break the union at Delta and outsource all pilot jobs.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 940339)

I have never heard the company preach insourcing for pilots, I don't think there is any question they would like to break the union at Delta and outsource all pilot jobs.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 940228)

It's 78 degrees and sunny here.....again. I'm dreading going back to work in a few weeks. Getting paid to not work is everything I thought it could be.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 940354)

So, why doesn't the Master Chairman publicly write a comprehensive policy for scope recapture?