Where do you come up with this Sh**. FTB.......You one funny MoFo.
I missed it yesterday, I got short called. Nice Donkey!

Never mind ... ...

Here's what I've found........


5. "AS" means Alaska Airlines, Inc. and any carrier to the extent of its category B operations using the AS code.

7. "Category B operation" means the operation of a flight segment by a domestic air carrier:

a. that:

1) controls Continental or Alaska, or

2) is controlled by Continental or Alaska whether directly or indirectly through the control of other entities, or

3) is under common control with Continental or Alaska, or

4) operates such flight segment under any of the CO or AS code(s) under an agreement with Continental or Alaska respectively, other than a prorate agreement,

and, b. that only operates:

1) aircraft that:

a) are certificated for operation in the United States for 70 or fewer passenger seats, and

b) have a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 85,000 or fewer pounds; and/or

2) Bombardier Q-400 aircraft (under the terms and conditions of the Alaska Pilot Working Agreement).


From what I'm reading the largest allowable Skywest jet is 70 seats weighing less then 85,000 lbs.

I got this from our current PWA under Sec 1.

Where are the Bid Results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What bid???

Feb schedules are up.

well according to the PWA, there really are only two:

1) Delta code placed on AS is limited to 85 seats. (50% of seats on smaller jets)

2) AS cannot fly more than 25% of the DAL hub-to-hub flights
(for comparison DCI is limited to 6% of hub-to-hub flights)

That's it.
Everything else is permitted.

For instance: Nothing in our PWA prohibits AS from operating an A330 HNL-NRT except the DAL code would be limited to 85 seats.

Cheers
George

Reference my other post. There are restrictions concerning RJs.

...do the additional RJ restrictions really matter after:

• AS is permitted 85-seats (9 more seats than the DCI RJ cap)
• 25% hub to hub flying (four times the 6% DCI limit)

In other words, the 5 extra OO RJs really are all-but-a-blip compared to the available seatmiles of DL code at the entire AS group, and since OO is taking delivery the CRJs from the Horizon fleet it's really just a shift of who's certificate they are operated under...

Cheers
George

I think you need to understand why I posted what I did. Someone was concerned that Skywest becoming a Alaska Express carrier opened the door for flying to be lost if they began to operate CRJ1000, C Series, or EMB190's. This is NOT allowed under our agreement.

I'm not arguing that the AS Codeshare doesn't hurt us. I was merely clearing up a misunderstanding.