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sailingfun 04-01-2009 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 588170)
some are supposed to be growth. supposedly, the DC9s are one of the most profitable aircraft in the fleet right now.

The DC-9's are the highest cost per seat mile aircraft in the Delta fleet at the moment. The MD-88 costs less to fly on the same segment then the nine and has a lot more seats. This includes all factores including lease payments. When we had the 737-200's they were the highest cost. The 4th quarter 10Q report also mentions that the nines in the desert have mostly been sold. We now own a total of 71 DC-9's. 67 are in service which is up from 58 planned so good news. 4 additional airframes are owned and still in storage in the desert as of 31 Dec. Not sure of their status now until the 1st quarter 10q comes out.

newKnow 04-01-2009 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 588677)
The DC-9's are the highest cost per seat mile aircraft in the Delta fleet at the moment. The MD-88 costs less to fly on the same segment then the nine and has a lot more seats. This includes all factores including lease payments. When we had the 737-200's they were the highest cost. The 4th quarter 10Q report also mentions that the nines in the desert have mostly been sold. We now own a total of 71 DC-9's. 67 are in service which is up from 58 planned so good news. 4 additional airframes are owned and still in storage in the desert as of 31 Dec. Not sure of their status now until the 1st quarter 10q comes out.

All I can say when you post now, sailing is..... :):):)

Bucking Bar 04-01-2009 01:12 PM

6/2207 t0 6/2008 Data as reported by US DOT, BTS, form 41

ASM Cost
DC930.. 13.1 cents / mi
DC950.. 9.5
MD88... 8.5
CRJ9... 7.9
737..... 5.5

acl65pilot 04-01-2009 01:20 PM

I knew you were going to post those.

How about the 757, show those numbers.

newKnow 04-01-2009 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 588695)
6/2207 t0 6/2008 Data as reported by US DOT, BTS, form 41

ASM Cost
DC930.. 13.1 cents / mi
DC950.. 9.5
MD88... 8.5
CRJ9... 7.9
737..... 5.5

Thanks Bar,

It just that for me, Sailing needs a little backup now. :D

Ferd149 04-01-2009 01:27 PM

Buck,

Do you have the numbers on the EMB series handy? I think those would be interesting too.

CASM goes down when you can spread it out over more seats (in general). Why I've always argued that SWA never purchased an RJ.

Ferd

Fly4hire 04-01-2009 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 588695)
6/2207 t0 6/2008 Data as reported by US DOT, BTS, form 41

ASM Cost
DC930.. 13.1 cents / mi
DC950.. 9.5
MD88... 8.5
CRJ9... 7.9
737..... 5.5

Are those generic costs, or DAL's?

Also RASM is the real number - sure a CRJ is half as expensive carrying half as many pax as DC930. To carry the same number of pax you have to fly 2 CRJ's at a combined cost of 13.8 cents/mile.

acl65pilot 04-01-2009 01:38 PM

I can tell you that most of the RJ numbers are off because of how the lease payments are costed out.
I will look for them tonight.

sailingfun 04-01-2009 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 588663)
Has anyone have an idea what kind of hub MEM will be? What airplanes


At the NYC flight ops road show they said that CVG and MEM were the worst performing hubs however would be kept open for the near term because of political promises. It did not sound like either hub has a real long term future in the Delta business plan. I would be surprised to see any additional aircraft or pilots based in either base.

Superpilot92 04-01-2009 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 588695)
6/2207 t0 6/2008 Data as reported by US DOT, BTS, form 41

ASM Cost
DC930.. 13.1 cents / mi
DC950.. 9.5
MD88... 8.5
CRJ9... 7.9
737..... 5.5

Arent those numbers based on 1000 mile segments? Most of the -9s routes arent that long so the numbers are skewed.


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