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02-23-2011, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
incoming pm
02-23-2011, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Razor
Thanks Super!
02-23-2011, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I never bet on anything with a brain... uh.. check that.. I guess i COULD bet on UT football with that qualifier. Hey, we played a pretty good game against Vandy last night though... actually looked like the team we could be. We'll lose in the first round 
02-23-2011, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Another question if I may. It's not because I am too lazy to look up the answers. I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out the contract but it's kind of fuzzy when you are new and I want to make sure I don't screw up. I start reserve on Friday and am coming off a few days off. It says I have to check DBMS or VRU no later than 0200 on my 1st day of reserve when coming off of days off. Does this mean I have to stay up until midnight in order to check DBMS/VRU? I assume icrew is the same as DMBS/VRU? Sorry guys, I"m trying to figure this out on my own but I'm kind of confused on what I need to do on my 1st reserve day. Thanks to whoever chimes in with answer 
Required Schedule Checks
A reserve pilot must check his schedule and acknowledge a rotation,
short-call period, or rest period under two circumstances:
1. Last Non-fly Day: On his last non-fly day prior to an on-call day,
a reserve pilot must check his schedule between 1500 and 0200
base time. He may be required to report for a rotation or start short
call as early as 0500 base time or start rest as early as 0001 base
time, provided Crew Scheduling has placed the duty or rest on his
schedule prior to 1500,. If is no duty on his schedule prior to 1500,
then he simply becomes a long-call pilot at 0001.
For a non-fly day that does not end at midnight, e.g., Pay Back (PB)
day or Partial Reserve (PR) day, the deadline for placement on the
schedule is 9 hours prior to end of the day, and the deadline for the
schedule check is 2 hours following the end of the day. The earliest
that a pilot may be required to report for a rotation or start short call
is 5 hours following the end of the day. He may be assigned to begin
rest immediately following the end of the non-fl y day.
A reserve pilot must check his schedule and acknowledge a rotation,
short-call period, or rest period under two circumstances:
1. Last Non-fly Day: On his last non-fly day prior to an on-call day,
a reserve pilot must check his schedule between 1500 and 0200
base time. He may be required to report for a rotation or start short
call as early as 0500 base time or start rest as early as 0001 base
time, provided Crew Scheduling has placed the duty or rest on his
schedule prior to 1500,. If is no duty on his schedule prior to 1500,
then he simply becomes a long-call pilot at 0001.
For a non-fly day that does not end at midnight, e.g., Pay Back (PB)
day or Partial Reserve (PR) day, the deadline for placement on the
schedule is 9 hours prior to end of the day, and the deadline for the
schedule check is 2 hours following the end of the day. The earliest
that a pilot may be required to report for a rotation or start short call
is 5 hours following the end of the day. He may be assigned to begin
rest immediately following the end of the non-fl y day.
Now 80ktsclamp is on the 737. 80 always has something on his schedule. The 737 calls him at 2am anyways, breathes heavy, and starts asking questions. 80 will hang up, the 737 will call back, and it goes back and forth numerous times. Have you seen Scream? Kind of like that. Eventually 80 is running outside in his underwear trying to get away from the 737 because the 737 owns him.
For the neighbors, it sucks. It's 80 in his underwear running through their water sprinklers. Had it been Scary Movie and Carmen Electra, it'd be so much better. But it sucks for them.
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02-23-2011, 09:03 PM
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"Conspiracy theorist will take a screen shot at 3:00.00 to make sure they have proof they can't be assigned a trip prior to 12:00pm on day 1."
Or Commuters.
Or Commuters.
02-24-2011, 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Razor
I had recurrent this month in MSP and I need to get in touch with the DGS evaluator who gave me my checkride. His initials are BW and he was a 744 FO before he blew out his aorta and went out on LTD. Any suggestions for finding an email or phone number for a DGS guy or a PM of his info? I tried iCrew but didn't see him there.
02-24-2011, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Yeah, once in an entire career. Second time is a carpet dance and third time is/can be dicipline. In a career. That makes it pretty much useless (other than your once in a lifetime freebie). A policy like that, if it is enforced in such a horrible labor relations kind of way, will result in worse labor relations not better as well as causing increased sick calls and/or pilots commuting so conservatively as to be less rested than they otherwise would have been had they not been in perpetual fear of a hostile management who views commuting as some off the wall extreme and essentric luxury bordering on wanton recklessness. Commuting is part of the industry and your workers are the foundation of your operation and customer service.
Again, the policy is good but the preface is trash. That negative context has not only been officially backed up at least once already, the absolutely insane stipulation of "pilots are responsibile for avoiding chronic cancel prone flights that our company can't figure out how to operate reliably" was incompetent frosting on a hostile cupcake.
One "freebie" in a career, if that is really how this will be interpreted/enforced, makes this otherwise good policy pretty much worthless. After your one freebie you are exposing yourself even listing more than 20 minutes before a flight because if you obey the rules after your one career freebie you can be nailed for it. And for what, one penalty free positive space flight in an entire career? It would be better to get rid of that in exchange for removing the strongly implied threat of jeopardy and an admission that commuting is here, its real and its a fact of life in this industry. How can anyone not get that?
Again, the policy is good but the preface is trash. That negative context has not only been officially backed up at least once already, the absolutely insane stipulation of "pilots are responsibile for avoiding chronic cancel prone flights that our company can't figure out how to operate reliably" was incompetent frosting on a hostile cupcake.
One "freebie" in a career, if that is really how this will be interpreted/enforced, makes this otherwise good policy pretty much worthless. After your one freebie you are exposing yourself even listing more than 20 minutes before a flight because if you obey the rules after your one career freebie you can be nailed for it. And for what, one penalty free positive space flight in an entire career? It would be better to get rid of that in exchange for removing the strongly implied threat of jeopardy and an admission that commuting is here, its real and its a fact of life in this industry. How can anyone not get that?
It is not how it will be enforced. They have been giving out PS for a long time and no one I know has ever even been asked about it. The only time they even looked into commuters in NY was a specific day when they had to cancel 5 international flights due to no shows. They checked everyone who no showed or was late that day to see if the complied with the current commuter policy. Not surprising most who were problems had not followed the policy yet there was no follow up. As long as you have complied with the policy and made a honest attempt to get to work you wont hear a thing. Now if they are forecasting a major snow storm and you are trying to get to NYC from Miami the same day you might here something. You might also hear something if you are coming from LA to NYC and using all nighters to try and do a same day commute.
02-24-2011, 03:46 AM
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Sailing;
I was actually one of the early defenders of JGs language as setting the ground rules. But after reading it over and combining the original language with the CVG base visit and end-of-week memo language, I do not agree with you characterization of how a "screw up" will be handled.
JG specifically says (paraphrased) #1 is a freebie, #2 is a talk with your CP, #3 you are labled as "bad". The language about planning on chronically underperforming flights was especially ridiculous.
That said, I am happy about doing away with the 2 hours between flights and some of the other arbitrary restrictions. I am a commuter and will not be changing anything I do. I've been given positive space to commute in the past...I dont control the weather and will not live on travelnet just to see if a commuter flight filled up after making my reservation.
I'm not getting my panties in a wad over this, generally the new policy is an improvement and Ill take it as that, but the repeated and re-iterated plantation foreman tone from JG to us field hands IS a little over the top.
On a completely different topic, I thought this was an effective advertisement:
http://www.naughtysuits.com/index.ph...products_id=21
I was actually one of the early defenders of JGs language as setting the ground rules. But after reading it over and combining the original language with the CVG base visit and end-of-week memo language, I do not agree with you characterization of how a "screw up" will be handled.
JG specifically says (paraphrased) #1 is a freebie, #2 is a talk with your CP, #3 you are labled as "bad". The language about planning on chronically underperforming flights was especially ridiculous.
That said, I am happy about doing away with the 2 hours between flights and some of the other arbitrary restrictions. I am a commuter and will not be changing anything I do. I've been given positive space to commute in the past...I dont control the weather and will not live on travelnet just to see if a commuter flight filled up after making my reservation.
I'm not getting my panties in a wad over this, generally the new policy is an improvement and Ill take it as that, but the repeated and re-iterated plantation foreman tone from JG to us field hands IS a little over the top.
On a completely different topic, I thought this was an effective advertisement:
http://www.naughtysuits.com/index.ph...products_id=21
Last edited by scambo1; 02-24-2011 at 04:26 AM.
02-24-2011, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
Dude blew out his aorta?!? And he is alive?!? Wow, modern medical miracles never cease.
BW is a great guy and i was shocked to hear about this when it happened as he was relatively young but i'm glad he's doing well now!
02-24-2011, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Anybody else having problems with Deltanet?
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