I predict we'll get the same basic logic we got when the DCI airplanes came out in violation of our contract with the words "Delta" and "Connection" NOT painted together as part of a phrase.

"The paint job is in compliance." "These aren't the droids you're looking for."

Im lost. Can somebody answer this? Republic Airlines is RAH and they bought an Airbus Operator-Frontier Airlines. As of today, they are a Single Airline with the NMB ruling on STS, correct? So now Republic is more like Jetblue, they have 190s and 319,320s, except their pay is lower, correct?

Pardon the Francais but how the he!! are they allowed to fly our routes? Their 319s,320s & 190s are competing with us, yet we are paying for their fuel and services.

Am I in the wrong for thinking this out like this. I am concerned, folks. Again our jobs are in danger with the turns of the tide..


Ten, out!

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure completely of the scenario myself, but I think your assessment is accurate and I'm not sure how much more I want find out.

My reaction is similar to a person watching 2 girls 1 cup for the first time.

It depends. They have always had one list. (Last seven years or so) and could go from certificate to certificate but it involved INDOC and a few other things. What this ruling exactly means is important. If the certificates do no go away, and the holding company still keeps separate management teams in place, it could be mostly a labor thing and not a corporate definition of single carrier. Like I said, it depends on how this is implemented by Republic Holdings.

Either way that little airline and their leader are one of our biggest threats. They could easily bypass any legacies section one by flying US passengers to a JV/Alliance partners flight without every attaching our code to it. This effectively bypasses section one of every mainline PWA. A domestic cabotage agreement with all of the airlines of Skyteam (in our case) is needed where Delta Pilots and DAL are the "domestic airline in the US for all Skyteam flying. Same would hold true for every other skyteam airline and their unionized pilots across the alliance. What this effectively does is keep each carrier from poaching domestic feed away from an alliance pilot group. It makes the fear many have of RJET null and void.

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rethinking....

These are the Droids you are looking for, but the force is strong with these droids. They are protected by DALPA due to inaction. Eventually inaction becomes status quo, then DALPA cant do anything about it. RAH should have been dumped the day they bought competing airframes.

It's allowed because ALPA will not allow DALPA to grieve this as a violation of Section 1. That's if DALPA had any interest in grieving it anyway.

You can't hold management to account if your own union only makes excuses as to why you can't even try to fight it. Conflict of interest.

Carl

Is that really true? :eek:

If it is, it's the biggest and best argument for DPA.


If DALPA doesn't want to grieve it, and National ALPA doesn't have anything to do with it, it's our fault for allowing those guys to continue to represent "us."

I don't... ever. Well.. maybe if all other methods of covering that trip in base have been exhausted... If you want to fly another bases trips.. bid to that base, or wait until you get an out of base WS... picking up open time in another base is just wrong. You seriously need to rethink that position... it would be ripe for plundering and make seniority in base worthless.

I would rather DALPA do something worthwhile and prod the company to get rid of those double ended non-commutable 12 hour 3 day trips. Read what SinkR8 wrote about this... and think about it.