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no greivance, so you guys are cool with subsidising the competition?

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 981092)

The DCI flights operated by Chatauqua are capacity purchase. DAL does all marketing/pricing/scheduling. If the flight doesn't operate or doesn't operate within DAL parameters, Chatauqua doesn't get paid or has their payment decreased.

For you RAH and RJ haters, this looks full of win. RAH Frontier gets direct competition for their money losing branded service from one of their own and Delta gets the revenue. If they cancel too much or have poor operational performance, they get their CPA penalties applied.

I have no problem, in the interim, that DAL pits RAH Frontier against RAH owned CHQ/Shuttle DCI flights. I find that to be just a lot fun.

However, I would not say I am an RAH or RJ hater. I'm not a hater, I'm a lover.... I'm just not as good as it as say, Ferd149....

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Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 981117)

no greivance, so you guys are cool with subsidising the competition?

I'm not cool with it.

I wish I was cool though.

Like Ferd149 is at the airport...

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Damn that guy is good.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 981128)

Ahhhhhhhh the good old days when I had hair :D

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Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 981117)

no greivance, so you guys are cool with subsidising the competition?

I still agree with the IBT:

RAH's various entities are operating as a single transportation system as evidenced by substantial operational integration, common control and ownership, and overlapping senior management and labor relations at each subsidiary,
That RAH holds out to the public that its operating carriers are part of a consolidated entity and thus held out as a single company of affiliates,
That while each has a separate control entity and its own FAA certificate, their operations are all consolidated and commonly scheduled under the Frontier brand.
That RAH's various carriers are presented on a consolidated basis for both financial and operating performance,
That since acquiring Frontier that RAH has further consolidated administrative, operational, and labor functions of Frontier into RAH at its Indianapolis, Indiana headquarters,
That Frontier employees are now under RAH’s handbooks and policies;
That Frontier’s website links prospective employees to the RAH website to search for open positions; and finally,
That there has been a combination of the branded operations by the various affiliates into the Frontier brand, which has resulted in RA and Chautauqua aircraft being painted in Frontier livery, and the flying of RA and Chautauqua planes as Frontier branded operations.

Also I agree with ALPA:

RAH’s two types of operations make the finding of a single transportation system the only result consistent with the RLA’s representation structure.

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The second best looking aircraft in the fleet behind the MD-88.

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 981092)

Slow;

"Full of win" would have DAL seniority list pilots operating the new flight.

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Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 981117)

no greivance, so you guys are cool with subsidising the competition?

I'm not cool with it. I have written my reps. I encourage all pilots to write their reps prior to the special MEC meeting (on tuesday?)

This just made me think that if DPA had composed a thorough white paper on the RAH scope violation (like check or FTB are so good at) for everyone to see, and had a hotlink for all pilots to write their reps on the topic (like alpa does with congress), I think they would have moved their ball pretty far down the field with just this one issue.

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Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 981092)

Except -- Until Frontier backs down, Delta pays more for the Chit flight than the revenue it brings in. We lose money.

This is Delta dumping capacity on a route to scare off a competitor that Delta helped create.

Its insane.

I guess Anderson and Moak thought Frontier would stick to Denver and only chip away at United. WRONG.