Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-08-2011 | 11:05 PM
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Early out
My Guess - 147.
06-09-2011 | 01:35 AM
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One other thing about an ATL A330 base, and this is total guesswork, I looked at the flying originating and ending in ATL on the A330.
The Good:
HNL - year round
CDG - seasonal
FRA - seasonal, so far 2 months then gone for 2011
DUB - seasonal, so far 2 months
FCO - seasonal
BCN - seasonal
AMS - year round
The Bad and the Ugly:
ACC - seems to be full time A330
DKR - seasonal
ABV via DKR
ROB via DKR
LOS - Feb thru October then back to 777
To achieve full savings of opening a base, I assumed that all trips starting and/or ending in ATL to be flown by ATL based pilots. (I had to start somewhere) My personal criteria is that I not be at risk for any MED flying during PBS runs.
My conclusion is that I am going to let someone else bid ATL because the sheer amount of bad MED flying far outweighs the seasonal good stuff. Good news for you junior guys that want to bid it in ATL. I would rather have a bad commute than a bad destination.
The Good:
HNL - year round
CDG - seasonal
FRA - seasonal, so far 2 months then gone for 2011
DUB - seasonal, so far 2 months
FCO - seasonal
BCN - seasonal
AMS - year round
The Bad and the Ugly:
ACC - seems to be full time A330
DKR - seasonal
ABV via DKR
ROB via DKR
LOS - Feb thru October then back to 777
To achieve full savings of opening a base, I assumed that all trips starting and/or ending in ATL to be flown by ATL based pilots. (I had to start somewhere) My personal criteria is that I not be at risk for any MED flying during PBS runs.
My conclusion is that I am going to let someone else bid ATL because the sheer amount of bad MED flying far outweighs the seasonal good stuff. Good news for you junior guys that want to bid it in ATL. I would rather have a bad commute than a bad destination.
I think yours is a fair analysis -to a point. Mother D swaps flying around on the fleets pretty regularly, todays chocolate is tomorrow's vanilla.
The 330 is the 777 without the range and it is also the 764 with better cargo capacity.
ATL 330 will do cargo heavy and pax heavy 12 hour runs. That means deep south america, turkey, greece, rome, africa, etc.
It will be somewhat junior on the bottom 8-9000 and somewhat senior on the top end 2500-4000 in the FO seat depending on base fleet size. IMO.
06-09-2011 | 01:42 AM
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Trivia question: What was that live blues bar (closed now) that had about 200 varieties of bottled beer - it was right around the corner from Tommy's Condom (tommy condon's). No, it wasnt myskins.
06-09-2011 | 01:58 AM
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ATL and 330 and 320 can now be bid.....
06-09-2011 | 02:01 AM
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06-09-2011 | 02:04 AM
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06-09-2011 | 02:14 AM
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Also, you think NYC will see the 320 or does that look like it will be too much movement?
I think they are trying to be conservative in terms of movement to try and keep training costs down. The last bid didn't seem all that big, but alot of movement seemed occur irregardless.
(Yes, I know Irregardless is not a word, I just like ****ing off the grammar nazis)
06-09-2011 | 04:02 AM
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06-09-2011 | 04:03 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
What are the advantages of these larger "AE" (displacement) bids compared to a monthly, or quarterly, system? It seems like a lot rides on the outcome of these for pilots, crew planning and the accountants. Months are spent tweaking the plan, then fuel, market conditions, or some other factor changes and then it seems everyone starts "we should of ..."
Smaller bids would allow much greater flexibility and certainty. Why do we have our AE system? Was it mostly to avoid seasonal furloughs?
Smaller bids would allow much greater flexibility and certainty. Why do we have our AE system? Was it mostly to avoid seasonal furloughs?
06-09-2011 | 04:07 AM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
FWIW, "irregardless" is a word in common use. According to Merriam Webster the word was first noted in 1915 and accepted into dictionaries in 1927. The word is most common in spoken commentary and does not have a "good reputation" but, yes, it is a word.
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