Can someone explain the SWA trips for pay for me? In their welcome package it says .74 TFP per hour min. It also says 6.5 TFP is the daily guarantee. Does that correspond to 4.8 hr daily guarantee? Seems to me that is lower than Delta REG pilot of 5:15
The 90 reserve guarantee also keeps being thrown around,but that is 90 TFP noy 90 hrs. 90 TFP equates to 66.6 hrs if I am doing my math correctly.

I just don't want us to be screaming for SWA rates when we don't quite understand them. SWA is a combination of the great efficiency they use their pilots and the good duty/trip rigs, not just the pay. I do know that if we take their W-2s and fit them into what we want to work monthly we can figure out what our rate should be to surpass them, but throwing out numbers like 90 guarantee and 6.5 daily isn't great. Apple and oranges as they say.

All I know is that my buddy at SWA got hired 8 months before I got hired at Delta and he makes a heck of a lot more than I do.

Early retirement update from the R&I guy:

...there are over 150 on the list, with the most common age being 60. But there are just as many below age 60, as there are pilots age 61+. And it is true that they are spread throughout the list, but about 1/3 of the total have a 2-3 digit seniority number.

Best new "Most Interesting Man in the World"/Newk-ism:

If he pats you on the back, you put it on your resumé.

Classic.

You miss-read, its the duty rig that is .74 TFP minimum. Cut and paste from the flyer: "Duty hour rig is .74 TFP per hour, minimum"

I seem to remember that one TFP hour works out to about 1.2 flight hours.

Edit: did some quick math - looks like a TFP hour is about 1.12 flight hours. So use 1.12 and redo your math.

I think you have it backwards still. TFP's aren't hours. 1.1393 TFP is one flight hour. A 6.5 TFP day is worth 5+42 .

I thought I read the company fantasy opener was 250 more large jets 94 seats or less. That means definately E190 and maybe E195. The E190 is a 100 all coach seater but even with 100 seat scope relief no legacy would chose to config it that way. They want the E190/195 with a first class, hence 94 seats. But that still means the "100 seater" is very much "on the table" from management's perspective.

Just like the CRJ900 was "limited" to 76 seats by the union. But that wasn't a limitation, that was management's fantasy to begin with because they knew they didn't want a 90 seat all coach RJ they wanted it config'd to 76, which is exactly why an arbitrary number like 76 came about in the first place.

Now my guess is that UCAL management realizes that this is a throw away item but they are hoping to either "bargain down" to 76 seats like DL or worst case get pretty much unlimited 70 seaters like UAL allows at the moment. This IMO is in response to UCAL/ALPA's (so far) very hard line and extremey rare stance on scope with their demands that any JCBA emulate the CAL limit of 50 seat jets with all others being phased out.

Since pretty much all openers have to be backed off to play the illusion of good faith bargaining, and knowing that management and their mega multi million dollar law firms know this, that would point to UCAL management positioning themselves for a current DLesque RJ scope boondoggle, and my guess is they will dangle many carrots at those in the 5-10 year retirement zone to get it, knowing full well that there will probably be some sort of downturn well before then where they will simply take the cookie back and keep the outsourcing that was sold to get it.

Bonus points: I wonder if the latest ALPA mag talking about its accomplishments the last decade and featuring a small picture of FedEx picketing and clearly showing a "SCOPE" picket sign was intentional or just what they happened to have on file.

That's what I was thinking, but not what I was writing - I hate it when I do that :o

Yes, you take one TFP and multiply by 1.1393 to get the equivalent per hour pay. Hence, their 186 per TFP works out to about 211 per hour.

Oh, and I think I could live with a 5:42 DAILY min.

This is not their opener. This is their second public proposal. Their first one was ours plus a buck. They are just throwing stuff out there and seeing if any of it sticks.

Comair pilots, after negotiating the best regional pay and pensions in 2001, are in the 5th year of a concessionary contract signed in bankruptcy under the threat of 1113c ruling that was in favor of management.

Comair pilots, due to fleet reduction, workrules, and inefficiencies, are now making less than their peers at all other DCI carriers.

Comair pilots would need more than 49% pay raise to "restore" what Delta management has taken from them.

This will not happen because Comair pilots are lacking one thing...

SCOPE.

I don't know what Delta pilots can learn from that, but I was feeling chatty. :D

Then go work for some other regional, it can't get much worse. You would upgrade faster and have a better career.