And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.[/QUOTE]

OK Bud Just to give you an Example of 2008 Hire....DTW DC9,MEM DC9, DTW 320, ANC 747, MSP 747, MEM DC9, MSP DC9, DTW DC9, MSP 7ER, DTW 7ER. ALL in 3.5 years and 90% were not by choice. Are you telling me me that I should move my family every time? You are smoking crack! Because of the guys like you my DPA card has been filled out.

 

What Hockey should have said was "use it as often as you NEED it" which is what everyone did. It is used when your flight maintenance/wx cancels and there is NO chance of getting on your back up due to standbys......what part of that don't you get.

Look, the overwhelming commuters are responsible and conservative. Having a policy that allows us a break when crap hits the fan is a stress reducer, which is good safety/risk management. Why add the stress back in of knowing they are now "tracking you"?

Oh, and adding the flight attendants was just dump and asking for the program to fail. Having them show to work stressed is not as dangerous as having us stressed. Don't you think?

But, I've always been amazed that you have never seen the logic behind all this. You can shake your head in disgust that some people are like this, but I maintain that the "average guy" (not me and I have the FAILURE to commute letters to prove it) will call in sick vs call in stupid.

I no longer have a dog in this fight, I commute almost exclusively on Southwest and leave myself 2 backups. As far as move, your new pilot group (which was 5/7s your original size) mostly commute and YOUR company is adding more commuters every day. Having us commute is going to be VASTLY cheaper than moving us.

JMHO,
Ferd

 

400 may sound like a large number on the surface, but by my rough and very unscientific figures, we probably have around 5000 pilots at DAL that commute. They propably make on average 3.5 commutes per month. This would make it 17,500 commutes per month or 210,000 commutes per year and this does not include flight attendants...

 

Totally disagree with that.

 

How can they say it doesn't go in your record yet it specifically states in the letter that it will be in their record?

 

I don't believe 90% of those were not by choice.

 

I have no idea what that means except that it is not a policy of my CP to do any of this. I still feel it was a local response to a bigger issue and that the company and ALPA need to decide important details.

I have no issue using it if I need to and if I do, I will be responsible for my actions and do what I can to be at work on time.

 

Oh, I see the logic, I just find it appalling.

I am amazed that the "average guy" has no qualms calling in sick when he's not. Justify it anyway you want, but the bottom line is it's lying to your employer. And we ALL pay the price for that.

I'm done with this topic...again. I'd like to think most commuters are honest, but frankly, you are the only one to admit to NOT abusing sick leave. For that, I applaud your high character.

But I'm embarrassed to be associated with a group in which most commuters on this board apparently have such low integrity.

 

Come on dude, there was a lengthy rant with not bad logic that I spewed out and all you got is the call in stupid part?

What are your thoughts on the risk management parts? Did the company set it up to fail by adding the flight attendants?

etc etc

 

Double negative. I'll allow it. Continue.