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PilotFrog 07-14-2011 11:04 AM

How in the world does scheduling give out a 3 day greenslip on the NY 7ER when there are 11 people on the availability list that have at least 3 days of availability?!

iaflyer 07-14-2011 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1022564)
My point was that individual Pilots at both companies can be way above and below the norm. What if you take a DAL Pilot who does a few Green-slips a year. He doesn't work a lot of days, and his pay might make it look like we are all well compensated - which I don't believe we are.

OK, but has anyone run into a SWA pilot who's making LESS than a Delta pilot and working more days than most of us do?

I think people are bringing up these examples because some people on here were saying that the SWAPA brochure was incorrect and the numbers were wrong. These example are just to counteract that.

BoyFromSouth 07-14-2011 11:18 AM

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BoyFromSouth 07-14-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1022569)
How in the world does scheduling give out a 3 day greenslip on the NY 7ER when there are 11 people on the availability list that have at least 3 days of availability?!

Check out the FO who just got a 3 day out of base GS in SLC. He even has 24+ hours to report. Sounds a little strange to me.

Elvis90 07-14-2011 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1022544)
Elvis,

I wouldn't put too much weight to specific W-2 assertions on this thread. A few days back a post mentioned a 5 yr SWA FO who said his W-2 was $145,000. It is very hard to make specific comparisons between DAL and SWA but it should be clear to everyone including DALPA - Our compensation is poor and needs to increase.


Scoop

Concur...just venting out loud.

Rhino Driver 07-14-2011 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1022561)
Be careful out there. A few weeks ago, I had a scheduling supervisor rip me apart on the phone, dock my pay, and try to get me in all kinds of trouble over something that would have been a non-event up until recently. Scheduling these days seems to be taking a very "we're trying to find any way we can to nail you on a technicality" approach to dealing with us. I'm really thankful for a great Chief Pilot with common sense. But FYI... be very careful with commuting and with deviating from deadhead.

Any way you can elaborate on this a little without exposing yourself? Personally, I think the new deviate from deadhead policies are worthless. Scheduling can DH me on DCI to my base, but they can't send me home on DCI? They will PS to suit their needs, but there has to be seats available to suit my needs? If there are seats available, I can nonrev. This policy is worthless!:mad:

Rhino Driver 07-14-2011 11:29 AM

Any AVERAGE type SWA guy out there willing to blank out their personal data, scan and post their W2? Getting bored with all the 2nd and 3rd heard from so and so stories.

chuck416 07-14-2011 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1022564)
I don't care what a SW pilot claims to make while riding the jumpseat. I just want a big pay increase. I do believe that we are currently under compensated.

Scoop

Unfortunately, this has been an unpleasant reality for, well, going on a few years now....

johnso29 07-14-2011 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1022569)
How in the world does scheduling give out a 3 day greenslip on the NY 7ER when there are 11 people on the availability list that have at least 3 days of availability?!

Because that list is worth nothing. It's one of the most useless and pointless things available to us. That list gives us NO guidance as to who is actually available for reserve. Some of those could be on FAR rest. Some could have a 30/7 conflict(Assuming it's a domestic trip). Some may be finishing a trip tonight.

Here's an idea. If someone ISN'T really available, how about we DON'T put them on the availability list. :rolleyes:

Rhino Driver 07-14-2011 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1022598)
Because that list is worth nothing. It's one of the most useless and pointless things available to us. That list gives us NO guidance as to who is actually available for reserve. Some of those could be on FAR rest. Some could have a 30/7 conflict(Assuming it's a domestic trip). Some may be finishing a trip tonight.

Here's an idea. If someone ISN'T really available, how about we DON'T put them on the availability list. :rolleyes:

Actually, I'd like the list to show what everyone is doing. Just like it list short calls, I'd like to see rotation numbers next to those that are out on a trip or long call, rest, etc.


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