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80ktsClamp 07-14-2011 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1022764)
Two Delta jets collide on Logan airport taxiway

767 bound for Amsterdam clipped an RJ. No injuries reported.

Check out the 4 photos.
Tore a winglet off the 767 and pretty much destroyed the rudder and horizontal stab on the RJ.

Two Delta jets collide on Logan airport taxiway - BostonHerald.com

http://multimedia.heraldinteractive....3_07142011.jpg

I love how the winglet is still embedded in the tail. Hopefully the 767 captain has some nice kneepads.

Check Essential 07-14-2011 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1022797)
That didn't take long....I come to expect comments like this and this is why Bar's dream of "inclusive scope" will never happen....Let me guess, this is the fault of one those inexperienced "regional" pilots...

You guys land on taxiways, overfly destinations while on your laptops, and take out other aircraft....yet somehow you find ways to attack us...

How did you interpret "One less RJ" as an attack on the pilots?

80ktsClamp 07-14-2011 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1022797)
That didn't take long....I come to expect comments like this and this is why Bar's dream of "inclusive scope" will never happen....Let me guess, this is the fault of one those inexperienced "regional" pilots...

You guys land on taxiways, overfly destinations while on your laptops, and take out other aircraft....yet somehow you find ways to attack us...

Well, it is one less RJ. Too bad it will be replaced shortly by insurance if it's not able to be fixed. :(

The outsourcing issue has to be fixed, though... and it's up to us. I saw a passenger walk up to an ASA pilot not long ago asking them to help with finding their gate. The response? "Find someone that works for Delta to help you."

80ktsClamp 07-14-2011 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1022803)
How did you interpret "One less RJ" as an attack on the pilots?

An inferiority complex of the worst kind...

JoeMerchant 07-14-2011 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1022803)
How did you interpret "One less RJ" as an attack on the pilots?

First of all, it's an airplane, just like any other aircraft...I hate to see damage to Cubs, 152s, RJs, and yes 767s...Second of all, if this had been the other way around, y'all would be blaiming inexperienced "regional pilots" for their screw ups...Instead it's yet another insensitive attack from the higher than mighty "mainline" pilots who decided that some aircraft are "only RJs" instead of simply "aircraft"....

80ktsClamp 07-14-2011 06:43 PM

Since no one went there yet. That tail SURE looks messed up. OH!!!

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...-gif.gif?w=320

Dash8widget 07-14-2011 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1022797)
You guys land on taxiways, overfly destinations while on your laptops, and take out other aircraft....yet somehow you find ways to attack us...

KLEX, KBUF......

I'm sorry, but really!?

Carl Spackler 07-14-2011 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1022811)
First of all, it's an airplane, just like any other aircraft...I hate to see damage to Cubs, 152s, RJs, and yes 767s...Second of all, if this had been the other way around, y'all would be blaiming inexperienced "regional pilots" for their screw ups...Instead it's yet another insensitive attack from the higher than mighty "mainline" pilots who decided that some aircraft are "only RJs" instead of simply "aircraft"....

Our caving on scope was a big mistake on our part. I accept that and will be fighting my union to take it back with all my might. It is MY highest priority. You and other regional pilots continue to provide management with their most important tool - working for far lower wages. This is the very tool that makes management want to outsource in the first place. When will you accept your half of the responsibility and what is your plan to change the current trajectory?

Carl

JoeMerchant 07-14-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1022824)
Our caving on scope was a big mistake on our part. I accept that and will be fighting my union to take it back with all my might. It is MY highest priority. You and other regional pilots continue to provide management with their most important tool - working for far lower wages. This is the very tool that makes management want to outsource in the first place. When will you accept your half of the responsibility and what is your plan to change the current trajectory?

Carl

Carl,

I have been at ASA for 17 years now. I have had at least 1 payraise, usually 2 payraises every year for the past 17 years. The top ASA pilot now makes over twice what they did when I got hired and we actually fly smaller airplanes now...We did fly 88-100 seat aircraft back then. We are not the problem....

During those 17 years, I spent many of my early years working within ALPA when I actually believed the BS that came out of Herndon...During that time, I had the opportunity to talk with Randy Babbitt in his office when he was President of ALPA...After he got done telling us we were only "regional" pilots and we couldn't get what we were asking for, he went on to tell us that he and the rest of the Eastern MEC made a mistake by allowing Eastern management to outsource the "little airplane" flying to Eastern Metro...He said they weren't interested in flying "little airplanes"...and thus it began...Mainline "big airplane" ego screwed this up forever...It isn't going to go back now...

Because of mistakes made by YOUR generation, many of us have made a career here...What are YOU going to do to try and mend the fence? I and others are tired of the constant attacks by you and your generation that caused this mess...Regardless of who is too blame, it is tacky to laugh about an accident and simply say "at least there is one less RJ"...

JoeMerchant 07-14-2011 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 1022821)
KLEX, KBUF......

I'm sorry, but really!?

KDFW, KDTW....do you really want to go there?

I guarantee you, I don't get on after a mainline incident and go "at least that is one less mainline aircraft"...


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