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JoeMerchant 07-14-2011 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1022890)
Small penis it is. Or the DUI thing.:D

...it's obvious that neither of these is disqualifying to be a Delta pilot...:D

80ktsClamp 07-14-2011 08:00 PM

The word penis has been mentioned wayyy too much. Let's get this back on track:

http://4.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.co...ef68c55f39.jpg

Check Essential 07-14-2011 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1022879)
Just a correction, but I believe this was a SureJet 900.

You are correct sir. The Boston paper said Comair but it was ASA. Tail N132EV.

Witzend 07-14-2011 08:02 PM

Not so sure about SureJet being called Surejet.

Atlanta regional airline backtracks on new name | ajc.com

80ktsClamp 07-14-2011 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by Witzend (Post 1022895)
Not so sure about SureJet being called Surejet.

Atlanta regional airline backtracks on new name | ajc.com

They nuked it already earlier today. Too freaking funny to let go of yet, though.

Carl Spackler 07-14-2011 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1022882)
I travel on mainline more than RJs, and your service isn't exactly steller...Your gate agents in ATL and DTW are about as bad as they get....Your FA's are also about as bad as they come....I've had much better experience recently recently on Air Tran, ASA, Skywest, Allegiant, and Sun Country...The worst I've had is Delta out of ATL, MEM, and DTW.....

That may be your experience. It's not mine. And it's not of most passengers. When you're sitting at a mainline gate and an RJ pulls up to it, nobody says: Oh great...it's an RJ! Nobody looks forward to gate checking their bag because only a pillow can fit in the overhead bins...if there were pillows. That's why people hate RJ's.

Carl

Carl Spackler 07-14-2011 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1022894)
The word penis has been mentioned wayyy too much. Let's get this back on track:

http://4.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.co...ef68c55f39.jpg

I hope we get to fly together one day Clamp!

Carl

Blueskies21 07-14-2011 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1022824)
Our caving on scope was a big mistake on our part. I accept that and will be fighting my union to take it back with all my might. It is MY highest priority. You and other regional pilots continue to provide management with their most important tool - working for far lower wages. This is the very tool that makes management want to outsource in the first place. When will you accept your half of the responsibility and what is your plan to change the current trajectory?

Carl

I want mainline to recapture scope as much as the next guy, it would help my career progression, however you are VERY VERY WRONG. It's more complex than the wages. Wages are a tiny part of the bottom line and we're all ego-driven to believe otherwise.

Do you know why mainline's outsource? I'll let you in on a secret, it isn't the wages. It's the liability. Regionals indemnify their mainline partners of liability for their operations.

In this litigation centric society, if you could transfer the risk for half of your operations to someone else, still collecting the revenue for the operation, wouldn't you do it?

Notice in the Continental 3407 crash how quickly it became the Colgan 3407 crash. The families who are suing won't have a claim against the assets of Continental they have a claim against Colgan. Much smaller fish.

Unless and until that veil of liability is pierced by a lawsuit it will be very difficult to convince mainline management of the reclaiming of scope.

If that veil is pierced management won't be able to move the flying in house soon enough.

It's all about risk management, not wages.

Check Essential 07-14-2011 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by The Chow (Post 1022889)
Clamp,

If you can't see the wing tips how would the captain know there wasn't enough clearance? Experience?

That's a good one for Carl.
You can't see anything inside 100 feet from the cockpit of that whale. :D And certainly not the wings.

JoeMerchant 07-14-2011 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1022899)
That may be your experience. It's not mine. And it's not of most passengers. When you're sitting at a mainline gate and an RJ pulls up to it, nobody says: Oh great...it's an RJ! Nobody looks forward to gate checking their bag because only a pillow can fit in the overhead bins...if there were pillows. That's why people hate RJ's.

Carl

What passengers really hate after the surly service from the mainline agent is gate checking their bag on a mainline flight because the bins are full and having to go to baggage claim and wait 30 mins for it...At least on an RJ they get when they get off......Don't worry Carl, when we get bigger airplanes, you will be able to fit more than a pillow in the overhead bins...:D


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