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Flamer 07-14-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1022561)
Be careful out there. A few weeks ago, I had a scheduling supervisor rip me apart on the phone, dock my pay, and try to get me in all kinds of trouble over something that would have been a non-event up until recently. Scheduling these days seems to be taking a very "we're trying to find any way we can to nail you on a technicality" approach to dealing with us. I'm really thankful for a great Chief Pilot with common sense. But FYI... be very careful with commuting and with deviating from deadhead.

So I guess I should call and try to get their pay docked when they screw up from now on. OK.

Since they always follow the contract, I see no reason icrew shouldn't show us the same info they are looking at. I'm not really sure why guys on res are given so little info as to what is going on, except that it gives you the fear of the unknown.

Columbia 07-14-2011 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1022473)
So a 3rd year DAL MD-88 FO on reserve can expect about $80,000 for a W-2, 50% less than the equivalent SWA FO. That is complete ^#{|>ŁĄ^}! :mad:

This next contract better be good. My DPA card has already been sent to light a fire under ALPA.

But Pineapple knows of a DAL FO who made $200K last year so in actuality, SWA is underpaid.

Dash8widget 07-14-2011 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Rhino Driver (Post 1022582)
Any way you can elaborate on this a little without exposing yourself? Personally, I think the new deviate from deadhead policies are worthless. Scheduling can DH me on DCI to my base, but they can't send me home on DCI? They will PS to suit their needs, but there has to be seats available to suit my needs? If there are seats available, I can nonrev. This policy is worthless!:mad:

I agree, but for slightly different reasons - DCI flights arent just code shares on another airline - they are subcontracted Delta flights. In other words, Delta pays these airlines to fly these flights, tells them when to fly these flight, handles all reservations, and owns all of the seats. We, as Delta employees should therefore n bhave rights to seats these flights as if they were mainline. We should have priority over their employees on these flights and we should be able to book PS on these flights.

I'm not quite sure why Delta doesn't have this policy. I mean, what's a Skywest, or a Mesaba, or a Republic going to say - If you don't give our employees priority on DCI flights, were not going to fly for you? Yeah right.

cencal83406 07-14-2011 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 1022614)
I agree, but for slightly different reasons - DCI flights arent just code shares on another airline - they are subcontracted Delta flights. In other words, Delta pays these airlines to fly these flights, tells them when to fly these flight, handles all reservations, and owns all of the seats. We, as Delta employees should therefore n bhave rights to seats these flights as if they were mainline. We should have priority over their employees on these flights and we should be able to book PS on these flights.

I'm not quite sure why Delta doesn't have this policy. I mean, what's a Skywest, or a Mesaba, or a Republic going to say - If you don't give our employees priority on DCI flights, were not going to fly for you? Yeah right.

You do have priority on any DCI for passenger seats. The only seat(s) that each particular carrier has priority for are the jumpseats. DCI, mainline, other DCIs, OAL...

johnso29 07-14-2011 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rhino Driver (Post 1022599)
Actually, I'd like the list to show what everyone is doing. Just like it list short calls, I'd like to see rotation numbers next to those that are out on a trip or long call, rest, etc.

That would work for me too. What we have now is useless.

Dash8widget 07-14-2011 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 1022619)
You do have priority on any DCI for passenger seats. The only seat(s) that each particular carrier has priority for are the jumpseats. DCI, mainline, other DCIs, OAL...

So when I travel as a nonrev on a Delta flight operated by Skywest, I have priority over any Skywest employee on that flight? Is this a recent change? I admit, it's been about a year and a half since I've been a regular commuter on DCI flights but I remember many a Skywest employee boarding before me. Maybe the agents in SLC didn't get the memo?

Edit: Ok, I looked it up - Skywest and ASA employees have priority over mainline employees on Skywest and ASA flights respectively. On other DCI flights we travel at the same priority code as their employees on their DCI flights. To me, neither of these policies are acceptable.

Bucking Bar 07-14-2011 01:22 PM

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Carl Spackler 07-14-2011 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1022336)
Carl,

Maybe this is PM stuff, but is any of your Counsel talking about settlement expectations, or a time line? How about ALPA's ability to pay a judgement of the size anticipated in the Bensel litigation?

First off, the only counsel I represent is myself. And sometimes I want to fire my rep! ALPA's ability to pay the judgment will weigh heavily during the appeal of the upcoming judgment. ALPA may try to appeal the verdict itself, but they will fail. They would have to prove judicial misconduct to get an appeals court to overturn the verdict. But appeals courts DO look at whether or not the amount of the judgment will bankrupt the company who lost. Recall the tobacco industry's judgements of multi-billions that was reduced to just millions for the "injured" tobacco user.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1022336)
Talk about a conflict of interest. What about the legal fact that Bensel group needs ALPA to survive in order to get paid, while another client works to decertify ALPA, which will most likely result in the death of the defendant?

ALPA is dead anyway Bar. The TWA guys know this. The judgment will be large, but not quite enough to bankrupt ALPA. That final nail will be driven by its current members when they hear exactly what ALPA was found guilty of...and they will refuse to pay the extra assessment to cover it. My opinions of course.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1022336)
If all of this comes to pass ... Does the DPA have it's Constitution and Bylaws thought out yet? Are they on paper?

Don't know since I'm just a line pilot. But I have told them I hope we simply adopt SWAPA's Constitution and Bylaws.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1022336)
Just how strong a commitment on scope is the DPA willing to make?

It's the very foundation of the DPA. It's their number one goal without peer. Without ALPA's purposeful weakness on scope, there would be no DPA.


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1022336)
It's nightmare scenario stuff we're seeing here. Figured DPA would have something to say given their proximity to events.

It's only a nightmare scenario to ALPA supporters. To DPA supporters, this was entirely predictable and one of the main reasons I've wanted a departure from ALPA. As I've said here for years now, ALPA has lost its way. They forgot about representing their own members. In their zeal to obtain the rights to all airline pilots, they lost sight of their fundamental mission. They'll now pay for that with their demise. Regards why DPA has nothing to say about it, I recall one military quote that says: "Never fight an enemy that is committing suicide."

Carl

dragon 07-14-2011 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 1022627)
So when I travel as a nonrev on a Delta flight operated by Skywest, I have priority over any Skywest employee on that flight? Is this a recent change? I admit, it's been about a year and a half since I've been a regular commuter on DCI flights but I remember many a Skywest employee boarding before me. Maybe the agents in SLC didn't get the memo?

Sorry, but on ASA and Skywest we travel as S3C. Their people are S3 and parents/retirees are S3B. We are behind all of them.

You know, we can't non-rev on charters (except when they're empty on repositioning) and aren't we in fact chartering these DCI planes to carry our passengers? Using that idea, we would essentially be part of the chartering group and should have higher priority on all seats. Think anyone would go for that??

Carl Spackler 07-14-2011 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1022387)
Bravo Sierra.

The scope language NWALPA had in place forbade the sale of Compass until a suitable DC-9 replacement for the mainline was flying (at least 10 hulls).

By removing that restriction, which did NOT occur until the JCBA, DALPA willingly facilitated the sale of Compass. We had language that directly controlled the disposition of that company...which is as close as "owning" the flying as you get without actually doing the flying, and it was given away by people who had NOT given up any negotiating capital to get it.


Nu

Absolutely correct. What has ultimately happened to Compass once NWALPA became DAPLA would never have happened without DALPA forcing it to happen.

Carl


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