Bill, that info is already posted on the DALPA forum.

I think there were a dozen or so 744 FO MD's. That said when 30 744A's and 17 330A's not planned to go creates a lot of vacuum that yields resultant reinstatement's just like the opposite creates resultant MD's.

Bottom line with all the AE training and moving Sims to Mecca they don't need to waste $$ by adding redundant initial training events to the mix. Never mind.....:rolleyes:

It's kind of like waiting for a faster computer to come out. You will never get the computer.... NOW is as good of a time as ever to change.

Timbo;
First, they really did not want to offer this program to pilots. Your union insisted that if it was going to be offered to all other employee groups, the pilots MUST be included. If you looked at the offer, it really was not that pilot friendly, yet a lot more than anticipated took it. Second, I agree there will not necessarily be clean up bid, but the fall bid will be early to account for training up for the early outs.

I imagine the conversation goes like this:

New Scheduler: "So how do you assign short calls?"

Scheduler A: "Well, personally, I do short calls on Mondays and I like to have everyone on short call. It just makes sense to me. So I assign the first 10 people short call whether there is any threat of weather or not. I just like it that way."

Scheduler B: "What? No. I assign Tuesdays and I only put the five people on short call that were originally supposed to be assigned. If there is weather, I do seven. We'll cover the trips on white slips."

Scheduler C: "I just pick at random. I assign every other person short call until I feel like I have enough and if some punk called complaining about my RUO work at 8am then everyone gets short call."

New Scheduler: "What happens to the short call requests for PM and AM, how do you figure whose request is honored?"

Scheduler A: "What request for PM or AM? What are you talking about?"

Schedule C: "Yeah, I just go to the first guy and he gets 330, next guy gets 430, next guys gets 600, and so on. They can't bid PM or AM."

Scheduler B: "I look at their requests and honor those in seniority order."

New Scheduler: "So, it's just kind of random however you'd like to do it?"

All: "Yes."

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Seriously, there must be a RUO for SC. I had a buddy back in January that had a raw score of 70 or so from vacation but hadn't flown all month or even gotten SC. At that point I had a raw score of 0 and 2 SCs. He got SC and I requested and didn't get it. So there is a system probably similar to a SC raw, but we're not privy to and that needs to change because I hate requesting SC and finding out I'm one of only 5 on SC and wouldn't have been given it if I hadn't asked.

We need to see what they're going to do and be able to put in requests.

Damn that George Bush....

Awesome FTB! :D

Not looking forward to my return to reserve this fall. :(

...as the fighter guys would say... SHACK!

Uh.... really? So you want to make it possible for someone who WOULD game the system to call in sick and get paid every single trip? Really? Unless there is some kind of gestapo oversight to prevent this very thing, there WILL be some guys (and more than a few...) that will do this. I am not a fan of the current system, but your idea is over the top the other way. There has to be a happy medium. Maybe an oversight board that looks at individual cases like a broken leg that uses all but a few hours of that time... obviously that is a guy not gaming the system.. but a guy that gets sick every quarter on that 40 hour 6 day trip... THAT's a different animal. THOSE guys should be hammered.. sorry.

OK.. I'm outraged... now, what have I accomplished?