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07-14-2011 | 01:48 PM
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Got a letter for using the commute policy. Word I got was 1st and 2nd offense you get a letter, 3rd you lose the privilege for a year.
Apparently it doesn't matter how many flights you attempted to use before you called in for pos space; you're still going to get a letter telling you in so many words to plan ahead and be responsible. Doesn't matter if a couple of the flights you had planned on using were canceled; you still get a strike for using the policy.
Call me naive, but I thought the policy was to help reduce the stress of commuting. Guess one needs to still plan on coming in 8 hours or so before their day starts.
They put a policy out there and then you get a letter for using it one time. Way to stress a guy for actually using the policy.
Apparently it doesn't matter how many flights you attempted to use before you called in for pos space; you're still going to get a letter telling you in so many words to plan ahead and be responsible. Doesn't matter if a couple of the flights you had planned on using were canceled; you still get a strike for using the policy.
Call me naive, but I thought the policy was to help reduce the stress of commuting. Guess one needs to still plan on coming in 8 hours or so before their day starts.
They put a policy out there and then you get a letter for using it one time. Way to stress a guy for actually using the policy.
Carl
07-14-2011 | 02:28 PM
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How does re-route and green slip pay get paid out? I see it on my "time card" for the month...but...I don't see it in my mid-month pay check.
07-14-2011 | 03:20 PM
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Anyone at the "dog and pony show" in ATL domestic lounge today? Anything to report?
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07-14-2011 | 03:21 PM
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Quick question. Can we actually occupy the jumpseat on an international connection flight to Mexico. I didn't think so but I thought something was changing regarding international jumpseating. I may be trying to do it tomorrow. Thanks,
Denny
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07-14-2011 | 03:33 PM
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I jumpseated to Montreal on an ASA RJ that was full about five years ago. They didn't say anything or seem to care, but I think I had to pay some misc. fee to get out of Canada. Different destination and a long time ago though.
07-14-2011 | 03:40 PM
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Be careful out there. A few weeks ago, I had a scheduling supervisor rip me apart on the phone, dock my pay, and try to get me in all kinds of trouble over something that would have been a non-event up until recently. Scheduling these days seems to be taking a very "we're trying to find any way we can to nail you on a technicality" approach to dealing with us. I'm really thankful for a great Chief Pilot with common sense. But FYI... be very careful with commuting and with deviating from deadhead.
Apparently the instructor schedulers are good at teaching the newbies how to nail a pilot for any infraction they can, but not so good at teaching them how to give out YS & GS correctly. OK, so that's a bit sarcastic, but I have heard and personally experienced schedulers assigning YS and GS trips incorrectly, and when called on it you can bet you're going to get put on hold for 10 to 15 minutes, only to get a lame excuse, or a "call back later."
Dispensing chaff and flares for preemptive self defense: I typically encounter very courteous and friendly schedulers. The ones I speak of above are the exception. Threat down.
07-14-2011 | 04:25 PM
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It only matters if you give a sh!t about their letters, I do not. I'll continue to be responsible. If I need the policy, I'll use it. If I do it 3 times in one year and they tell me I lose it for a year, I'll say Great! I'll go back to the old policy. No stress whatsoever.
Carl
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Most brilliant post today!!
07-14-2011 | 04:45 PM
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Can someone explain why we are all spun up over Republic Air Lines Holdings? If they did not perform the flying some other third party vendor would fill the breach. The flying would not come back to us. We dorked that up when we divested Compass.
If it were up to me, I'd rather change the agreement that is making Alaska the fastest growing Air Carrier on our Continent.
The most important next step is to get our MEC on board with the idea that Delta pilots can operate the E-Jet TYPE, to get our group on board with Delta pilots performing Delta flying (not just the flying that requires 767's or larger).
Unless we "own" the flying, what is the point?
This is a sincere question, maybe one of you can 'splain it.
If it were up to me, I'd rather change the agreement that is making Alaska the fastest growing Air Carrier on our Continent.
The most important next step is to get our MEC on board with the idea that Delta pilots can operate the E-Jet TYPE, to get our group on board with Delta pilots performing Delta flying (not just the flying that requires 767's or larger).
Unless we "own" the flying, what is the point?
This is a sincere question, maybe one of you can 'splain it.
07-14-2011 | 04:48 PM
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My point was that individual Pilots at both companies can be way above and below the norm. What if you take a DAL Pilot who does a few Green-slips a year. He doesn't work a lot of days, and his pay might make it look like we are all well compensated - which I don't believe we are.
I don't care what a SW pilot claims to make while riding the jumpseat. I just want a big pay increase. I do believe that we are currently under compensated.
Scoop
I don't care what a SW pilot claims to make while riding the jumpseat. I just want a big pay increase. I do believe that we are currently under compensated.
Scoop
07-14-2011 | 05:21 PM
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You ask false questions that demand the impossible. Do you not think others notice? DPA does not currently represent the pilots of Delta. Therefore, DPA can't prove ANYTHING to you through definitive action on behalf of Delta pilots. It's impossible.
Your other demand that DPA supporters work within ALPA to change ALPA fails to understand that we have no interest in wasting our energies. You believe in ALPA, so you don't understand how anyone could think of it as wasted energy. I understand that. We don't agree. Most DPA supporters are completely finished with ALPA and see it as totally broken, corrupt, and now guilty of selling out its own members. I want my energies totally devoted to decertifying ALPA.
Again, I don't know if you really want to understand or just ask your rhetorical questions. But I've given you the answer.
Carl
Your other demand that DPA supporters work within ALPA to change ALPA fails to understand that we have no interest in wasting our energies. You believe in ALPA, so you don't understand how anyone could think of it as wasted energy. I understand that. We don't agree. Most DPA supporters are completely finished with ALPA and see it as totally broken, corrupt, and now guilty of selling out its own members. I want my energies totally devoted to decertifying ALPA.
Again, I don't know if you really want to understand or just ask your rhetorical questions. But I've given you the answer.
Carl
If a "DPA supporter" backed group can't muster enough horsepower to even accomplish a simple "democratic function" within a representational structure, what on God's green earth makes you think that a "DPA organization" is able to ADMINSTER and OPERATE an entire representational labor organization.
You DPA'ers can't lose on doing something like this!!! If you are able to muster the troops to send up a resolution calling for a positive change on behalf of Delta Pilots, if it gets sent on and passed and implemented, YOU WIN! (and now you can claim to be affecting change that will HELP Delta pilots).
If it passes the LEC but gets whacked at the MEC level, NOW you have fodder for your campaign literature.
The only downside for DPA supporters is if the resolution gets rejected at the LEC level. That would show that the DPA supporting pilots in that domicile aren't necessarily willing to put there money where their mouth is......
What are they waiting for?
(As an aside, your "I know" response was well written. We are both right.....)
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