So I guess I should call and try to get their pay docked when they screw up from now on. OK.

Since they always follow the contract, I see no reason icrew shouldn't show us the same info they are looking at. I'm not really sure why guys on res are given so little info as to what is going on, except that it gives you the fear of the unknown.

 

But Pineapple knows of a DAL FO who made $200K last year so in actuality, SWA is underpaid.

 

I agree, but for slightly different reasons - DCI flights arent just code shares on another airline - they are subcontracted Delta flights. In other words, Delta pays these airlines to fly these flights, tells them when to fly these flight, handles all reservations, and owns all of the seats. We, as Delta employees should therefore n bhave rights to seats these flights as if they were mainline. We should have priority over their employees on these flights and we should be able to book PS on these flights.

I'm not quite sure why Delta doesn't have this policy. I mean, what's a Skywest, or a Mesaba, or a Republic going to say - If you don't give our employees priority on DCI flights, were not going to fly for you? Yeah right.

 

You do have priority on any DCI for passenger seats. The only seat(s) that each particular carrier has priority for are the jumpseats. DCI, mainline, other DCIs, OAL...

 

That would work for me too. What we have now is useless.

 

So when I travel as a nonrev on a Delta flight operated by Skywest, I have priority over any Skywest employee on that flight? Is this a recent change? I admit, it's been about a year and a half since I've been a regular commuter on DCI flights but I remember many a Skywest employee boarding before me. Maybe the agents in SLC didn't get the memo?

Edit: Ok, I looked it up - Skywest and ASA employees have priority over mainline employees on Skywest and ASA flights respectively. On other DCI flights we travel at the same priority code as their employees on their DCI flights. To me, neither of these policies are acceptable.

 

Delta Air Lines Inc. saw an uptick in passengers in April and carried more total system passengers than any other U.S. airline, the U.S. Department of Transportation 's Bureau of Transportation Statistics reported Thursday.
The Atlanta-based carrier had about 9.8 million passengers in April, up 3 percent from April 2010. Delta is the second busiets airline at Piedmont Triad International Airport, behind only US Airways.
U.S. airlines combined carried 60.5 million scheduled domestic and international passengers in April -- up 1.4 percent from April 2010. The April 2011 passenger total was also 1.7 percent above that of two years ago in April 2009 but remained 4.3 percent below the early recession level of April 2008, BTS noted.
Harstfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport was the busiest airport in April with 3.6 million passengers coming through -- up 1 percent over April 2010.

 

First off, the only counsel I represent is myself. And sometimes I want to fire my rep! ALPA's ability to pay the judgment will weigh heavily during the appeal of the upcoming judgment. ALPA may try to appeal the verdict itself, but they will fail. They would have to prove judicial misconduct to get an appeals court to overturn the verdict. But appeals courts DO look at whether or not the amount of the judgment will bankrupt the company who lost. Recall the tobacco industry's judgements of multi-billions that was reduced to just millions for the "injured" tobacco user.

ALPA is dead anyway Bar. The TWA guys know this. The judgment will be large, but not quite enough to bankrupt ALPA. That final nail will be driven by its current members when they hear exactly what ALPA was found guilty of...and they will refuse to pay the extra assessment to cover it. My opinions of course.

Don't know since I'm just a line pilot. But I have told them I hope we simply adopt SWAPA's Constitution and Bylaws.

It's the very foundation of the DPA. It's their number one goal without peer. Without ALPA's purposeful weakness on scope, there would be no DPA.

It's only a nightmare scenario to ALPA supporters. To DPA supporters, this was entirely predictable and one of the main reasons I've wanted a departure from ALPA. As I've said here for years now, ALPA has lost its way. They forgot about representing their own members. In their zeal to obtain the rights to all airline pilots, they lost sight of their fundamental mission. They'll now pay for that with their demise. Regards why DPA has nothing to say about it, I recall one military quote that says: "Never fight an enemy that is committing suicide."

Carl

 

Sorry, but on ASA and Skywest we travel as S3C. Their people are S3 and parents/retirees are S3B. We are behind all of them.

You know, we can't non-rev on charters (except when they're empty on repositioning) and aren't we in fact chartering these DCI planes to carry our passengers? Using that idea, we would essentially be part of the chartering group and should have higher priority on all seats. Think anyone would go for that??

 

Absolutely correct. What has ultimately happened to Compass once NWALPA became DAPLA would never have happened without DALPA forcing it to happen.

Carl