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11-19-2011, 10:14 AM

#80921

iaflyer

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Originally Posted by Sobchak

Reserve gurus, quick question. I'm on day 7 of a 10 day stint. Am I supposed to be released for 24/7? Are schedulers supposed to put it on my schedule? Can I be used for anything today? Tia

No, you aren't supposed to be released for a 24 in 7 just because you've worked or been on call the last 7 days. They can deadhead you somewhere today, tomorrow or whenever, it's flight duty that they can't use you for. Also, make sure you didn't have a 24 hr break on a trip in the last 7 days, that counts. They will notify you (or you have to acknowledge it if you check iCrew) when you're assigned a 24/7 break.

What they often do is give you notice of a trip say, tomorrow night, and at the same time give you the 24 hrs off before that trip. That gives you your 24 hrs of time off.

11-19-2011, 10:26 AM

#80922

iaflyer

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Originally Posted by Delta1067

Tell that to my friend who is on reserve

I might be wrong, but under the Delta FA rules, no one has pure reserve. As I understand, the "A" days (availability or reserve days to us) extend a lot further up the seniority list, but even the most junior FA isn't solely on reserve. The most junior FA has scheduled trips, can trip trade and do everything else a senior one can.

11-19-2011, 10:30 AM

#80923

80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by Delta1067

Tell that to my friend who is on reserve

You should remind your friend that is on reserve that he/she/it will be a lineholder under the delta system only with a few days on call.

11-19-2011, 10:34 AM

#80924

Check Essential

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Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat

Great. Now we'll expend our negotiating capital to benefit the FAs.

The company will have to cost out any benefits we negotiate and extend them to the FAs to keep them happy--and keep their union at bay. Our dues money hard at work.

Speaking of watering down our negotiating capital...DALPA is already on record advocating for CrewPass for the FAs. why, why, WHY?

Who knows--maybe DALPA will negotiate health insurance for the FAs' cats too, while they're at it.

Its true that Delta management has a history of also giving pilot negotiated items to the flight attendants.
However, I think we are better off in the long run if the flight attendants do not have a union.

11-19-2011, 10:43 AM

#80925

Cubdrick

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sobchak

Reserve gurus, quick question. I'm on day 7 of a 10 day stint. Am I supposed to be released for 24/7? Are schedulers supposed to put it on my schedule? Can I be used for anything today? Tia

I'm in the same boat and received a call yesterday putting me on 24 hours of rest beginning at 1330 yesterday through today (doesn't have to be a calendar day). On iCrew there's a "R" on my line.

11-19-2011, 10:45 AM

#80926

Molon Labe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Check Essential

I agree, especially since the primary negotiative tool of the FA's was the "Mee Too!" clause that was a thorn in our sides during so many section 6 negotiations. Now what we gain through negotiation is not formally linked to other employee groups. (For historical correctness the FA "Me Too!" had a lot of limitations) ie: pay pension, hours of service etc....but it applied to WAY too many things...AT NWA the pilots negotiating power was diluted quite often by 12,000 FA's...At least now management can think about it or not.

11-19-2011, 11:16 AM

#80927

OccupyRestSeat

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Check Essential

However, I think we are better off in the long run if the flight attendants do not have a union.

You may be right. It would be unsettling to have our livelihoods at the mercy of unskilled labor.

11-19-2011, 11:18 AM

#80928

hockeypilot44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OccupyRestSeat

I'm guessing someone with pull is married to a flight attendant. He needs his balls back.

11-19-2011, 12:07 PM

#80929

OccupyRestSeat

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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44

I'm guessing someone with pull is married to a flight attendant. He needs his balls back.

Even so, the fact that DALPA spent any time, energy--or expended any type of influence, no matter how small--on the FAs' wish list, is simply stunning.

Apparently DALPA thinks they've got everything for the pilots under control, and can start tackling the FAs' wants.

11-19-2011, 12:15 PM

#80930

shiznit

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon

I agree, with these LOAs and especially LOA 29, we have achieved some good gains outside of section 6. The negotiating committee is really earning their keep!

No they are not! They are stealing from the pilot group with all their full-time flight pay loss!