Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-15-2011 | 04:20 AM
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07-15-2011 | 04:25 AM
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That just seems right to me.
07-15-2011 | 04:30 AM
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Flew with a line check airman last night with some interesting info:
- DAL's interested in a 190-seat replacement first followed by a 100-seat replacement
- A321 or 737-900, perhaps both, to replace the 757
- Possibly 717 hundred seater (additional flying)...FTB? You've said this for some time
-- Airtan's 717 Qaleases will expire, then they will be returned to Boeing. Likewise there are extra 717s in Saudi Arabia that may be available.
- Likely to hire some beginning this Fall since 187 pilots taking early out was higher than anticipated (about 35 were expected)
- Retirements in year 2017 & beyond will exceed current training capacity
-- Will have to offer incentives to get guys to retire early and smooth out the hiring
- 2nd Qtr profit looking like $350M or so
- This last AE generated more training than anticipated
- DOT is good with the LGA slot swap, DOJ is the slowpoke in approval
- A320s were moved from DTW vice MSP because most of DTW is commuter, but most of MSP pilots live in domicile...moving MSP A320s would generate a lot more training
- If network had it's way, there would be no A320s in MSP...they'd all be ATL, NYC, SLC, LAX.
That is all.
- DAL's interested in a 190-seat replacement first followed by a 100-seat replacement
- A321 or 737-900, perhaps both, to replace the 757
- Possibly 717 hundred seater (additional flying)...FTB? You've said this for some time
-- Airtan's 717 Qaleases will expire, then they will be returned to Boeing. Likewise there are extra 717s in Saudi Arabia that may be available.
- Likely to hire some beginning this Fall since 187 pilots taking early out was higher than anticipated (about 35 were expected)
- Retirements in year 2017 & beyond will exceed current training capacity
-- Will have to offer incentives to get guys to retire early and smooth out the hiring
- 2nd Qtr profit looking like $350M or so
- This last AE generated more training than anticipated
- DOT is good with the LGA slot swap, DOJ is the slowpoke in approval
- A320s were moved from DTW vice MSP because most of DTW is commuter, but most of MSP pilots live in domicile...moving MSP A320s would generate a lot more training
- If network had it's way, there would be no A320s in MSP...they'd all be ATL, NYC, SLC, LAX.
That is all.
As to the 717, one can only hope as it's the best replacement of the 9. Imagine that, a 9 is the best replaced by a 9.
I heard the 717 rumor by 4th floor types last fall. That the BOD wanted ever 90 ever built (including saudi air) and 717s be because in his words SWA didn't want them. Next thing I hear is from SWA management road shows was that they were telling their pilots they don't want them, then telling them there are no plans for Delta to take them in "2011". Now SWA is talking about moving the 717 sim to luv and there is less talk about off loading them. That may be because DAL, SWA and Boeing can't come to terms and I'm sure the buyer is in the driver seat, that's us.
But good post Elvis.
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07-15-2011 | 04:42 AM
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That and the Colgan accident also illustrate how ridiculous it is that an offline jumpseater can't ride up front unless all seats are taken.... stupid TSA. There were jumpseaters on both flights.
Had there been another set of eyes up front, I would be willing to bet that neither accident would have happened. I believe the Colgan flight had an online guy..but still.
It was before these accidents, but when I was a CA, I always enthusiastically welcomed jumpseaters and encouraged them to sit wherever they want- most certainly including up front for these very reasons. The conversation dynamic is more enjoyable with 3 guys, and the extra set of eyes can save many lives.
Had there been another set of eyes up front, I would be willing to bet that neither accident would have happened. I believe the Colgan flight had an online guy..but still.
It was before these accidents, but when I was a CA, I always enthusiastically welcomed jumpseaters and encouraged them to sit wherever they want- most certainly including up front for these very reasons. The conversation dynamic is more enjoyable with 3 guys, and the extra set of eyes can save many lives.
07-15-2011 | 04:49 AM
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If he had been up front, none of us would associate Comair with Lexington.
07-15-2011 | 04:52 AM
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It's a minor thing to me really and I appreciate a difference in opinion but imho if it's an ASA flight I agree they get priority, but if it's a Delta flight, as in ASA replacing Delta, then no. It's nothing personal to them, it just makes no sense to act as if ASA Is out there originating it's own flying. They're doing ours and our rules should apply in every way we wish from training to maintenance to appearance to pass travel to whatever else delta and dalpa wants.
07-15-2011 | 04:58 AM
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I'm a firm believer that the AirTran jumpseater on Comair 5191 (a LEX commuter) would have saved the day when the crew lined up on 26 instead of 22. Instead, he got to see trees flash by in the darkness from row 12.
If he had been up front, none of us would associate Comair with Lexington.
If he had been up front, none of us would associate Comair with Lexington.
07-15-2011 | 05:02 AM
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Delta policy.
As you know, Comair and ASA used to be painted across the tails in man-sized letters. At some point Delta told us to put the Delta wave on the tails and put the Comair/ASA name in big letters on the nose.
Then we got the widget on the tail, and Delta commanded that Comair/ASA show up in the smallest font available and low enough on the nose to not be visible from a jetbridge. Comair and ASA logos were also removed from the cabin and briefing cards (unless you read the fine print on the back page).
Somewhere along the way Delta passed down the edict that we could no longer use our airline name in our PAs, instead requiring us to only use the "Delta Connection" moniker.
Somehow this was expected to bring "one level of service" to our customers. Instead, combined with the reduction of our pass benefits, it has wiped out any sense of company pride at the subcontractors and replaced it with apathy toward our, no..., Delta's customers.
As you know, Comair and ASA used to be painted across the tails in man-sized letters. At some point Delta told us to put the Delta wave on the tails and put the Comair/ASA name in big letters on the nose.
Then we got the widget on the tail, and Delta commanded that Comair/ASA show up in the smallest font available and low enough on the nose to not be visible from a jetbridge. Comair and ASA logos were also removed from the cabin and briefing cards (unless you read the fine print on the back page).
Somewhere along the way Delta passed down the edict that we could no longer use our airline name in our PAs, instead requiring us to only use the "Delta Connection" moniker.
Somehow this was expected to bring "one level of service" to our customers. Instead, combined with the reduction of our pass benefits, it has wiped out any sense of company pride at the subcontractors and replaced it with apathy toward our, no..., Delta's customers.
07-15-2011 | 05:08 AM
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As of 2009, Delta boards first on Comair iron regardless of DOH.
Comair boards last on Delta iron regardless of DOH.
ASA/SKW are the only DCI to have a priority carveout over Delta when they fly on their own iron.
Comair boards last on Delta iron regardless of DOH.
ASA/SKW are the only DCI to have a priority carveout over Delta when they fly on their own iron.
07-15-2011 | 05:25 AM
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Boomer, it isn't Comair's iron - it's Delta's. Comair is a wholly owned subsidiary. I think some of the problems with OH on DL equipment was brought about by the super senior Captain's at OH bragging about boarding ahead of Delta employees for all travel. That BTW wasn't second hand, I heard it.
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