Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Btw, have you been applying? Because you need to be.
Boomer, it isn't Comair's iron - it's Delta's. Comair is a wholly owned subsidiary. I think some of the problems with OH on DL equipment was brought about by the super senior Captain's at OH bragging about boarding ahead of Delta employees for all travel. That BTW wasn't second hand, I heard it.
I flew with one of those super senior captains last week, and he's not bragging anymore. I helped him with some of the reserve rules.
Another RJ bites the dust
Can't abide NAI
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Give it a break, Nerd. Isn't funny and figure several million less profit for you and I to share by the time all of this is covered. Thanks to Comair, Colgan and our own mishaps our underwriters are, how should I say, unenthusiastic about our risk management.
80Kts, you are a mainline sky god!
One point we overlook with Joe is that his airline did not start out with outsourced flying. They started out performing their own flying and developed their own code. His airline and its code were bought by Delta, but his pilot group was not merged. He hates us for that and he sees a very clear line. There is no way to make it "right" or equitable, so in his opinion Delta deserves whatever ill befalls it.
What he says is true, that Delta pilots' Reps in 2000 decided they wanted no part of small jet flying and were willing to sacrifice unity to keep it off the property. The result, as we all know, were massive mainline furloughs and stagnation. The only thing that "saved" the mainline pilots' careers at Delta was correspondingly massive retirements.
Joe's back on this board because he senses another year 2000 turning point in our union's administration. Let us hope our Administration and Reps resist temptation.
I am in no way an almighty mainline pilot, and I don't appreciate you reading into it that way. Joe voraciously defends his chosen career position to stay at an outsourced feeder we've fed more and more flying over the years... which was a horrible decision. Even when I as in high school, I learned about airlines outsourcing and couldn't understand why that flying wasn't done by the mainline pilots.
Besides, it's really funny when he gets riled up.
Besides, it's really funny when he gets riled up.
One point we overlook with Joe is that his airline did not start out with outsourced flying. They started out performing their own flying and developed their own code. His airline and its code were bought by Delta, but his pilot group was not merged. He hates us for that and he sees a very clear line. There is no way to make it "right" or equitable, so in his opinion Delta deserves whatever ill befalls it.
What he says is true, that Delta pilots' Reps in 2000 decided they wanted no part of small jet flying and were willing to sacrifice unity to keep it off the property. The result, as we all know, were massive mainline furloughs and stagnation. The only thing that "saved" the mainline pilots' careers at Delta was correspondingly massive retirements.
Joe's back on this board because he senses another year 2000 turning point in our union's administration. Let us hope our Administration and Reps resist temptation.
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I just think going back to separate paint schemes would be wise.
I however propose a compromise.
I am willing to allow DCI to exist and have DAL colors if all of the RJs are parked and the only allowed airplane is the ATR 42-600 purchased new and payrates no lower than the lowest rate in section 3 of the DAL pwa.

That's a compromise because I want to fly ATRs
I however propose a compromise.
I am willing to allow DCI to exist and have DAL colors if all of the RJs are parked and the only allowed airplane is the ATR 42-600 purchased new and payrates no lower than the lowest rate in section 3 of the DAL pwa.

That's a compromise because I want to fly ATRs
From the PWA, Section 1D7:
"Delta Connection flying aircraft will only bear the name “Delta” as part of a phrase referencing a Connection-type operation."
But can we paint the tails in hi-visibility orange?
In this litigation centric society, if you could transfer the risk for half of your operations to someone else, still collecting the revenue for the operation, wouldn't you do it?
Notice in the Continental 3407 crash how quickly it became the Colgan 3407 crash. The families who are suing won't have a claim against the assets of Continental they have a claim against Colgan. Much smaller fish.
Notice in the Continental 3407 crash how quickly it became the Colgan 3407 crash. The families who are suing won't have a claim against the assets of Continental they have a claim against Colgan. Much smaller fish.
No, it's about your justification for continuing to give management their main impetus to continue outsourcing. We caved on scope, and we never should have. You continue to give management their main tool to continue outsourcing, and you shouldn't. That's where we are.
Carl
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