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Old 07-19-2011, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
How different would our contract be if we had $10 billion sitting in the bank?
Delta spent a good deal of cash to purchase Comair, spent a good deal of cash to improve Comair, and is spending a good deal of cash to dismantle Comair.

It's a miracle they have any billions left to grow RAH.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
Once and for all folks: RECAPTURING SCOPE WILL NOT COST THE COMPANY MONEY...IT WILL SAVE THEM MONEY. They won't believe it no matter what, but a strike might be what's necessary to explain it to them.

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Who was it that said in so many words that RJ outsourcing is good for Delta pilots? Was it really LM or someone else?

One simple question - where does it stop? Couldn't RAH fly MD88s cheaper than we could? Could they fly A320s cheaper than we could? 737s cheaper than we could?

I'm sure a few feeble minded individuals would think they couldn't do it because those are bigger jets and harder to fly. That's idiotic and a nonstarter. They could do it in a month. Just like us. And I mean in both seats. A plane is a plane and if anyone has flown a turboprop then they've flown airplanes more difficult than any of our mainline fleet.

So why if outsourcing is good for Delta pilots do we draw the line at 76 seats and below is okay to outsource?

Why do we not outsource MD-88s?
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
Delta spent a good deal of cash to purchase Comair, spent a good deal of cash to improve Comair, and is spending a good deal of cash to dismantle Comair.

It's a miracle they have any billions left to grow RAH.


10 points.

Although to grow RAH is to save Frontier... who flies Airbuses. Odd we're in the business of saving other airlines.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Who was it that said in so many words that RJ outsourcing is good for Delta pilots? Was it really LM or someone else?

One simple question - where does it stop? Couldn't RAH fly MD88s cheaper than we could? Could they fly A320s cheaper than we could? 737s cheaper than we could?

I'm sure a few feeble minded individuals would think they couldn't do it because those are bigger jets and harder to fly. That's idiotic and a nonstarter. They could do it in a month. Just like us. And I mean in both seats. A plane is a plane and if anyone has flown a turboprop then they've flown airplanes more difficult than any of our mainline fleet.

So why if outsourcing is good for Delta pilots do we draw the line at 76 seats and below is okay to outsource?

Why do we not outsource MD-88s?

Because the MD-88's have steam gauges and regional pilots are not qualified to fly those.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver View Post
Sounds like your crystal ball isn't any better than mine!
Honestly. It is and was. I saw AAI for what it is, and I saw significant stagnation at LUV. Charting my career progression I actually fair better here than LUV. As for AAI, well I would have had to work for AAI before it merged with Value Jet, and that was not something I wanted to do. It would have led to better money, and LUV, but who really knows.
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Originally Posted by The Chow View Post
Because the MD-88's have steam gauges and regional pilots are not qualified to fly those.
Tis true. They're used to flying in a plane that has real fly-by-wire and not fly-by-cable-by-tabs and one that knows when it has entered ice and automatically turns on all of the anti-icing systems which all run simultaneously versus an airplane you have to look at the windshield wiper to see if your accumulating ice and if so turn on the one at a time anti-ice system.

So 5 weeks instead of 4, for step backwards training.

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Old 07-19-2011, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King View Post
This post reminded me of the rumor that Boeing is going to buy the NATCO building.
Ya know I heard that one too. That one surfaced about three weeks before the announced the closure of NATCO.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Although to grow RAH is to save Frontier... who flies Airbuses. Odd we're in the business of saving other airlines.
This may be overly simplistic in the world of finance, but I would add that Delta has saved USAir twice in the last decade by laundering money through RAH.
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Originally Posted by Columbia View Post
American Airlines?s Management Lean Toward Airbus, WSJ Says - Bloomberg

American Airlines’s Management Lean Toward Airbus, WSJ Says
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By Chris Peterson - Jul 19, 2011 5:17 AM ET

Management at AMR Corp. (AMR)’s American Airlines is leaning towards Airbus and may recommend buying the European planemaker’s jetliners over Boeing Co. (BA) to replace its short-haul fleet, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
AMR’s board is due to meet tomorrow and may make a decision on 200 aircraft with a book value of $20 billion; American Airlines’ management will recommend picking Airbus, although last-minute talks may take place, the newspaper said.
Looks like we let AMR pick first and then we pressure the loser to give us a better deal.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Tis true. They're used to flying in a plane that has real fly-by-wire and not fly-by-cable-by-tabs and one that knows when it has entered ice and automatically turns on all of the anti-icing systems which all run simultaneously versus an airplane you have to look at the windshield wiper to see if your accumulating ice and if so turn on the one at a time anti-ice system.

So 5 weeks instead of 4, for step backwards training.

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I'd sure fly that in a DAL uniform on the DAL seniority list.
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