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Old 08-24-2011, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver View Post
When the latest paint scheme first came out and RJ's started being painted in it, we had the chance to impact this in a positive way (for us) and DALPA just looked the other way. Our contract states the following: "Delta Connection flying aircraft will only bear the name “Delta” as part of a phrase referencing a Connection-type operation." Clearly, the current paint scheme on DCI aircraft does not use "DELTA" as part of a phrase. The term "Connection" is much lower on the fuselage and in much smaller font (and can't even be seen from the terminal when parked at a jetway)... an obvious attempt to hide the fact that it is not a Delta aircraft.

There's a reason we put that language in our contract. And, obviously, that reason is to prevent Delta from passing off DCI flights as Delta flights. More specifically, it is to prevent Delta from passing off non-Delta pilots as Delta pilots. But I guess our MEC, under Lee Moak, didn't think that part of our contract was worth enforcing. Their excuse at the time was, "it's in compliance." Well here's what I think of that:
Tis true, they made the connection part as invisible as possible. This goes back to the fact that I truly believe they don't think we're very good at our job. Hence, replace us on the bottom, in the middle and at the top.



^^^^ FWIW, this is an Embraer E-175. When tower tells you to follow the Embraer E-175, don't argue with the pilot next to you as the Embraer taxis by and say "that's an Airbus, we're supposed to follow an Embraer." Yeah, I know I'm speaking to the choir here though but still, basic aircraft identification should be the simplest part of the job. I mean is that a 737-800 or a 739 or a DC-9-40 or -50? You get a pass on that, but everyone should easily recognize the 732 replacement fleet.



The best part about the word connection on the CRJ-900 is that when it's at the gate and the service door is open you don't see "connection."

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Tis true, they made the connection part as invisible as possible. This goes back to the fact that I truly believe they don't think we're very good at our job. Hence, replace us on the bottom, in the middle and at the top.



^^^^ FWIW, this is an Embraer E-175. When tower tells you to follow the Embraer E-175, don't argue with the pilot next to you as the Embraer taxis by and say "that's an Airbus, we're supposed to follow an Embraer." Yeah, I know I'm speaking to the choir here though but still, basic aircraft identification should be the simplest part of the job. I mean is that a 737-800 or a 739 or a DC-9-40 or -50? You get a pass on that, but everyone should easily recognize the 732 replacement fleet.



The best part about the word connection on the CRJ-900 is that when it's at the gate and the service door is open you don't see "connection."

Yep, but you do see "Conne" which is french for "Con" as in Con game, I think
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude View Post
Yep, but you do see "Conne" which is french for "Con" as in Con game, I think
That's not a half bad idea nwa, let's start calling it Delta Con.
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
That's not a half bad idea nwa, let's start calling it Delta Con.
perfect....
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Old 08-24-2011, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy View Post
SWA hate aside, I hope they dominate us in the eyes of the consumer on any and every outsourced route.
Sadly, this is the only hope we (DAL) have of them noticing what a garbage product GoJets and others are providing, and unfortunately it might take them (MGMT) a while to catch on.

My future is heavily vested in DAL's success, so that's why I use the term "we."
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar View Post
Are they Comair jets? If so, why not a group grievance?
Don't know enough about it for a grievance opinion, why I was asking the expert. Well, that and making sure I'm not slipping over the conspiracy theorists ledge.

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:10 PM
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REGULAR--15.45TL 8.36BL 7.09CR 0.00MU
RESERVE- 13.47TL 8.36BL 5.11CR 0.00MU
ROT GUAR POS B - N/A
TAFB 48.15CR
TAFB 48.15EX
WILL NEED TO COVER..MSP R E S E R V E ONLY..OFF ORIG
ATL/9552/25AUG..ATLDP..CS


Hey, I saw this on daily trip coverage today. Any idea why they say "MSP reserve only?
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrust Normal View Post
REGULAR--15.45TL 8.36BL 7.09CR 0.00MU
RESERVE- 13.47TL 8.36BL 5.11CR 0.00MU
ROT GUAR POS B - N/A
TAFB 48.15CR
TAFB 48.15EX
WILL NEED TO COVER..MSP R E S E R V E ONLY..OFF ORIG
ATL/9552/25AUG..ATLDP..CS


Hey, I saw this on daily trip coverage today. Any idea why they say "MSP reserve only?
That happens depending on when the trip shows up in Open Time and what "step" they are on in the trip coverage ladder.

Several possibilities:

ie=> reserve pilots in category come before out of base white slips.
or => out of base long calls come before in base long calls who would touch a day off.

etc. etc.

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Old 08-24-2011, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential View Post
That happens depending on when the trip shows up in Open Time and what "step" they are on in the trip coverage ladder.

Several possibilities:

ie=> reserve pilots in category come before out of base white slips.
or => out of base long calls come before in base long calls who would touch a day off.

etc. etc.

Sections 23.N and 23.O
Thx, I just usually hadn't seen it expressed on the rotation like that.
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Old 08-24-2011, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrust Normal View Post
Thx, I just usually hadn't seen it expressed on the rotation like that.
I think that particular note appears most often with broken trips when Crew Tracking is involved and not just Crew skeds.
They make those little notations to each other.
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