I have been busy and missed most of this. From the way I read the old NWA contract, NWA had to keep 50+% of Compass unless they had at least 10 77-110 seat aircraft. If they didn't, then the limit for 76 seat aircraft would go down to 55 instead of 90. In the JCBA, the joint negotiators adopted a limit of 255 total for 51-76 seat aircraft. If you look at the old limits of 200 from the Delta contract and then adopt the lower limit from the NWA contract you get 255. So, it seems to me that the 255 limit that was permanently adopted essentially complied with the former NWA contract's limit if Compass was spun off. I just looked at it for the first time so I am sure I missed something. What did I miss?

The loss of several thousand mainline jobs?

It also is a good time and opportunity for the real plans to surface.

As an intersting tag along, many atl 777 rotations begin with a deadhead to dtw.

Personally as a commuter, I wish every 777 rotation started and ended with a deadhead. Can we get a carveout for that in our next contract?

I actually found a use for control + Thanks FTB

Anytime Scambo but I don't think CTRL + will help you figure out what color her eyes are.

So the new 737... any 787 technology? Or is that 787 going to sit out there by itself all high tech but not incorporated into the 747 or 737 outside of the engines?

Seems like the R&D for the 787 would have a better ROI if spread around the product line. I'm sure airlines are going to order 1000 737s and there won't be a new NB product from Boeing and therefore no NB 787, is that safe to assume? George? Bar?

I'm with ya brother! I'm thinking of changing my name to DV8....at least my car's license plate

Why I want them peskie ATL kids to stay east and let me do the DH to SFO and PDX. I did a few JAFA* trips after the merger as a MSP guy and what an easy gig! And it's all about me

* just another freaking add (old NWA FA term). I always have the relief guy introduce themselves that way with northie girls.....always gets a giggle.

Tonights advice on what not to say to your gf:

That's a great example 80 of playing checkers while someone else plays chess. I think if Bar's analysis of scope is right, as in little jets were just flat out unwanted as were b-scales and scope was bargained away is another great great example of checkers while someone was playing chess.

The other is thinking outsourcing all over the place is a good thing, like that flight attendant at MIT. Dude is telling airlines to play checkers while the real world plays chess. Airlines that follow suit are thinking if they move their pawn out and immediately put their queen in striking distance that they'll be in a great position to win. In reality, they're going to lose their queen - their product - and they will flounder around as what was once a nothing pawns move in on their king.

Talk about not seeing more than one step ahead. This Holdings scheme (RAH and now Skywest and TSA) seems like a modern day version of the CRJ-100 introduction. Overlooked but one day we'll pay the price.