Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-05-2011 | 10:18 AM
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From: Light Chop
I *sniff sniff* am *(choking back the tears) leaving Sao Paulo tonight...
Click here. But skip the first couple of pics.
Or try one.
This is at our layover hotel.
Click here. But skip the first couple of pics.
Or try one.
This is at our layover hotel.
"Hurry back Mr. American with the orange shirt with the white T!"
09-05-2011 | 10:18 AM
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I think Gloopy and George make very informative and good posts.
09-05-2011 | 10:28 AM
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09-05-2011 | 10:37 AM
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From: Light Chop
Thanks Carl, but lets not forget, FTB is, well what he is...
and he ain't no Tsquare in Brasil...
and he ain't no Tsquare in Brasil...
09-05-2011 | 10:43 AM
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09-05-2011 | 10:58 AM
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I just returned from the workout room... Several of the young women were there working out... for some strange reason my workout was a little longer than usual. Miss Nicaragua is hot. And her English is impeccable. Just thought you guys would like to know.
Damn I LOVE this job! But all in all, Sao Paulo sucks, the ER is really a narrowbody, and anybody with a seniority number <5000 should stay away.
Oh, and the VOLS are still undefeated.
Damn I LOVE this job! But all in all, Sao Paulo sucks, the ER is really a narrowbody, and anybody with a seniority number <5000 should stay away.
Oh, and the VOLS are still undefeated.
09-05-2011 | 11:31 AM
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09-05-2011 | 11:34 AM
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09-05-2011 | 12:59 PM
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And so we forge ahead with "constructive engagement" which in and of itself isn't a bad thing,...as long as we have internal checks and balances and ways to evaluate the progress of this methodology and more importantly, a non emotional "exit stratedgy" for the day its clear that it isn't working.
You've pinpointed the heart of the dilemma right there gloopy.
I think we're committed to non-confrontational Moakism and his constructive engagement at least until we're deep into bargaining, maybe all the way to the amendable date. I hope it works, but --
Our potential "checks and balances" are busy trying to form a new union rather than standing ready to take over DALPA leadership if constructive engagement fails. Hopefully, they will reverse that as it becomes more obvious that DPA is not going to fly in time for this contract.
The key question is - If we don't see any signs of constructive reciprocation from management as 2013 approaches, will O'Malley have the ability to turn the ship? Can DALPA shift strategy and abandon this "partnering with management" thing?
We've been docile for so long now, it's hard to imagine our current leadership doing anything else. We're probably gonna need at least a few new people if a 180 turn is required.
The pilot group has been exposed to exactly zero old style unionism of late. Its been years.
Outsourcing continues, management compensation skyrockets, etc. etc. -- and not a peep. Is DALPA even capable of being militant and disruptive if it becomes necessary? I hope so for our sake.
09-05-2011 | 01:28 PM
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Excellent Labor Day discourse.
You've pinpointed the heart of the dilemma right there gloopy.
I think we're committed to non-confrontational Moakism and his constructive engagement at least until we're deep into bargaining, maybe all the way to the amendable date. I hope it works, but --
Our potential "checks and balances" are busy trying to form a new union rather than standing ready to take over DALPA leadership if constructive engagement fails. Hopefully, they will reverse that as it becomes more obvious that DPA is not going to fly in time for this contract.
The key question is - If we don't see any signs of constructive reciprocation from management as 2013 approaches, will O'Malley have the ability to turn the ship? Can DALPA shift strategy and abandon this "partnering with management" thing?
We've been docile for so long now, it's hard to imagine our current leadership doing anything else. We're probably gonna need at least a few new people if a 180 turn is required.
The pilot group has been exposed to exactly zero old style unionism of late. Its been years.
Outsourcing continues, management compensation skyrockets, etc. etc. -- and not a peep. Is DALPA even capable of being militant and disruptive if it becomes necessary? I hope so for our sake.
You've pinpointed the heart of the dilemma right there gloopy.
I think we're committed to non-confrontational Moakism and his constructive engagement at least until we're deep into bargaining, maybe all the way to the amendable date. I hope it works, but --
Our potential "checks and balances" are busy trying to form a new union rather than standing ready to take over DALPA leadership if constructive engagement fails. Hopefully, they will reverse that as it becomes more obvious that DPA is not going to fly in time for this contract.
The key question is - If we don't see any signs of constructive reciprocation from management as 2013 approaches, will O'Malley have the ability to turn the ship? Can DALPA shift strategy and abandon this "partnering with management" thing?
We've been docile for so long now, it's hard to imagine our current leadership doing anything else. We're probably gonna need at least a few new people if a 180 turn is required.
The pilot group has been exposed to exactly zero old style unionism of late. Its been years.
Outsourcing continues, management compensation skyrockets, etc. etc. -- and not a peep. Is DALPA even capable of being militant and disruptive if it becomes necessary? I hope so for our sake.
I agree with your post except what I've bolded above. If DPA can't get the numbers in time, we will have no choice but to continue to pressure our association to behave like a union. And we'll do just that. But the one point of pressure we have and will always have is this: Our No Vote!
DALPA will put up a massive show of pressure and fear, telling us that:
"This is the best offer the company will give us..." and
"If you vote NO on this, we'll have start over from the beginning..." and
"If you vote NO on this, we'll have to re-elect all new officers..." and
"If you vote NO on this, the next offer will undoubtedly be worse..." and
"Those aren't really Scope sales, you're reading that wrong..."
My hope is that all of us will be able to read these types of pressure techniques and simply say NO.
Carl
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