I don't know the exact numbers you seek but I can give you some food for thought. Our wages are slightly above levels from 1986 to 90. A senior Captain at Delta made somewhere around 160 to 180 thousand a year back then. The average total compensation package for our CEO's were around 500,000.00 a year.
Richard Anderson in his first 18 months as the CEO Of Delta earned 29 million dollars in total compensation.

 

Yes I am a CA. However the contract does not make a distinction between Captains and FO's. If you want 8 hours behind the door take it. Its your contract.

 

Richard is the highest paid US airline CEO in 2010 with $8 million in compensation.

CEO 2010 pay at major and regional airlines ? do they deserve it? Take our poll

We should likewise be the highest compensated pilots.

 

Thanks, gents. I think I've just become a bit more militant.

 

I did not attend Dragon Con but I was in Altanta. I finally found Carmen SanDiego!

 

Let me guess... Imperial Stormtroopers and Klingons in the hallways.

 

A lot of it has to do with how we schedule different jets in to a city as well. Lots of nine hr layos to cities we flying 7+ flights a day in to as well. Last one out is a 88/757 first one out is the same with RJ's or a different type of jet the rest of the day.

I have also seen a short layo for one crew and a 18 hrs for another crew on the same type of jet. A lot of times it comes down to what the computer optimizer spits out.

You are correct that there are some 30 hr LAYOs in cities like CMH due to the eight hr behind the door, but that is a marketing decision.

 

I push wheel chairs all the time. I enjoy helping someone. If I get sued, so be it.

They usually chuckle when I tell them they are an important VIP and I will be their pilot for the ride to the concourse. "We will be travelling at a speed of one half mile an hour, at an altitude of zero feet, weather in the terminal will be clear skies, and 70 degrees" (smiles).

Call me s sucker...but I do it...even though the beacon isn't on.

If contract 2012 isn't significant then my motivations will change.

Food for thought for any managers who read this forum.

Cheers.

 

I agree, and occasionally we help find lost mothers with Alzheimer. You do make a salient point though. Caring is a two way street.

 

What I mean specifically is after a 5 leg day you shouldn't be on min rest or right close to it. I'm not advocating changing all overnights to a min greater than 9 or 10 hours, just ones after 5 leg days.

Here's the trip, it's still in open time (imagine that) on the 88 in ATL but it's just one of many that you see very often and sometimes the reverse, 9 hour overnight into a early start 5 leg day:

That's a trip that would make an turboprop guy cringe. My only complaint though is about the 9.08 schedule overnight.

I think that needs to be increased to a min of 10 if not more on both sides of the trip, not just one. I'm taking into account experiences with these lousy trips during IROPS and other events where you complete all 5 legs, 8 hours behind the door, a delayed show but original go and you're right back out there.

FWIW, the trip I posted is 5+2+3 legs for a 10 leg 3-day. You can do 5+2+3 as long as day 1 has 10+ hour overnight. Otherwise, 3+4+3 which is still 10 legs is equal productivity without the compromise in safety.

That's all, Part 135 min rest requirements for 5 leg days or scrap them all together.

You're right, chances are you won't pull off 8 hours behind the door after a 5 leg day. But sometimes you come close.