All in favor of banning Tsquare from airlinepilotforums.com until he starts posting pictures say: Go Tebow.

 

Carl, When DPA first started they wisely recognized what goes into a section six negotiation and set up a time line. In their words they had to have the required number of cards in by 31 Dec 10 in order to have the vote and be on the property by summer 11. What happened to make them decide they had made such a huge error in their time line and now almost 1 year after their own deadline don't see a problem?
Second question. Do you see DPA being able to establish a working relationship and the political ties that will be required to get past the NMB in this contract in the amount of time remaining? What will they do different from American to avoid the 5 year debacle that has been their contract negotiations.

 

No. No. I opened one of t's links on from of my wife. Needless to say, I won't be bidding the 7er.

 

Air_Line_Pilot_September_2011

Pilot Commentary The Entitlement Mentality by Capt Joe Doniach (United)

 

I think....I need.....to go to.....Serbia.....

 

Sorry. Didn't mean to restart a DPA debate in ths thread.

I agree with sailingfun though. Sorry Carl. There needs to be a deadline.
I think DPA has honorable intent and many admirable goals but they have about another 3 or 4 months to get their cards in and schedule a vote. If they have fallen short by the time the calendar turns to 2012 then in the interest of unity they need to suspend their efforts and let DALPA concentrate on the contract. Justified or not, the DALPA troops are way too distracted by DPA. Carl - face it, your presence makes those guys hyper-ventilate. That's a good thing right now. But not next year.

Its just my opinion but I think if DPA continues their activities into 2012 then they will be harming the pilot group (and any chance they might have of getting enough cards any time in the future).

Urging a "NO" vote on any TA they see as inadequate is perfectly legitimate. But continuing to advocate the decertification of ALPA is not. Not while the contract is open in Section 6.

 

What LEC guys? What have they "pushed" on you?

If it's in my LEC I'll help lead the recall drive. Nobody on the MEC knows beyond vague generalities what this pilot group wants, if they are speaking without knowing what we want, I don't want them representing me and the pilots in my LEC.

 

Nice. I can't believe the union would put this in print. Except for the "don't blame ALPA, blame society".

 

I agree and if there is proof in my LEC too, I will advocate the same.

 

I disagree on this. I do think that DPA will force DALPA to grow a pair for the upcoming contract. IF DALPA continues in their ways of the past then imo the pilots voices will be heard and DPA will carry the torch. The choice is DALPA's.