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Quote: overstaffed on the 777. Something just makes me think trip parking is a part of that, people don't seem to understand when you go over ALV you reduce the required number of pilots. Unless I'm missing something.
Trip parking definitely contributed to the "surplus" we had on the 777 this last AE.

How could it not?

Management loves it and ALPA seems to as well. They even gave us that recent swap "improvement" of letting guys pick up trips that take them within 30 minutes of a FAR violation instead of the 1 hour rule we've had for years.
Gee thanks. There goes some more jobs.
Quote: Guys,

Just attended the Section 6 roadshow at SNA for the LAX base. Nothing earth shattering but some of the points made were:

The MEC wants everyone, and they do mean everyone to fill out the forthcoming contract survey - this will drive our negotiations.

A few of the CAPTs discussed how some of the LAX FO’s were complaining about financial distress. Not everyone was familiar with this, but it was good to see it brought up. LAX is a high cost area and some guys are struggling.

Scope came up a few times. Not just RJs, but codeshare (ALK) JV, and also DCI. The ALPA guys were stressing the 50 seaters were going away and said we owned everything over 76 seats.
They don’t seem to think small jet scope is an issue - they feel that we as a pilot group have learned, we had a gun to our head in BK etc.

The SCOPE sale for pay raise issue was said to basically be an urban legend. Overall positive feeling on Scope, but I just don’t see the same “angst” over DCI from the ALPA guys compared to how a lot of our FOs feel.

A looming threat is the large number of wide-body orders that the Middle East airlines have and the political pressure that they may invoke to pry open the cabotage can of worms. Most guys think this is the big future threat.

The Alaska code share came up and was a little bit contentious but it is in the contract and the ALPA guys insist that big-picture it benefits us the DAL Pilots. As a LAX based pilot lets just say I am a little skeptical about this but will give them the benefit of the doubt - then again do I really have a choice?

CPO sick calls were discussed - know your obligations, read the ALPA provided bulletin and comply with it. The company has the right to call employees. 



Like I said nothing earth shattering, and as an early 2000 hire I felt pretty good about most things.

Scoop

Good Deal Scoop,

Couldn't make it this time.

I take it no discussion on the new Virgin Australia JV?
Will there be a forthcoming LOA?

Cheers
George
Oh oh,

Manila:

Qatar A330 wingtip scrape DAL 744 as the Qatar jet is pushed back...
Leaves a six inch scrape in the Whale's winglet, flight delayed.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/335101/aircraft-mishap

Be careful out there!
(I guess there is not much you can do if a push crew drives another jet into yours..)

Cheers
George
Qatar can afford to fix it.
Quote: Shiz, you are in denial. And I think you are going to be hugely disappointed in the result. I hope I'm wrong and you are right. I really do. But I don't think that's going to turn out to be the case.

Tell you what... If our opener is for full restoration (C2K+COLA) with significant get-backs on scope. And if we end up with C2012 with our domestic narrowbody guys averaging over $230K for Captains and over $140K for F/O's (like SWA) while at least holding the line on our current scope. If either of those things happen, the steak dinner with all the trimmings is on me. You just name the time and place!
Well denial isn't just reserved for dalpa "apologists". I'll raise your steak dinner if you actually think the NMB would release us in the next century to achieve your demands.
Quote: Since everyone is talking about contract items that cause staffing reductions, here is my prediction for an item in the management opener and why many pilots won't realize/care about the immediate and future job losses it can cause.

Virtual Basing a.k.a. Satellite Basing (fNW).

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Benefits to company: Money saved on infrastructure/rent. (See Commercial Real Estate listings in CVG and MSP)

Fewer CPOs (see above) and fewer CPs (reduce number of seniority list management pilots required) Reduce admin jobs (fewer CPOs)

Reduction in pilot staffing

The amount depends on how the language is written.
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One of the last proposals by fNW would have allowed satellite basing with the following "perks" for pilots. Pilot would get positive space to and from sat base. Pilot would get company paid hotel room.

Perks for management? Pilot on call as reserve the day prior to a trip originating from sat base (not paid for reserve day). No deadhead pay to/from sat base at beginning or end of rotation(less pilot staffing required).

If you think its not a significant staffing hit, consider that once you let the camels nose in the tent (think the first time we granted 50 seat RJ relief or first agreement to codeshare with ALK), further erosion will be on the table at every contract negotiation that follows. How about sat bases at NRT and AMS? How about DFW, CVG, MEM and SEA? Maybe we can just have one master base in ATL, one CPO in ATL and we can move pilots around the system by paying their hotel rooms instead of deadhead pay.

Some will think this is a great deal because it MAY end their commuting problems and will want to try it on for size.

I predict this is already in the management opener waiting to be presented

I prefer to slap the camel's nose to keep it out of the tent and then secure and patch up the existing leaks.
End rant.
Interesting perspective.

The way that World does home basing is this:

There is a paper base: MCI

Every trip starts with a airline trip to somewhere. They deduct the difference in the location that someone is actually DHed to versus a DH from their home city and MCI.

Also, they require at least two airlines serve an airport within two hours of your home. They have to be Class I or II airlines as well. (Majors or Regionals)

Works for them due to their long trips, and the fact that they are always paid trip rig versus actual.

Still debating how it well it would work with domestic trips. I know that there was a push for this sort of set up a few years back, but it got shot down.
Quote: Trip parking definitely contributed to the "surplus" we had on the 777 this last AE.

How could it not?

Management loves it and ALPA seems to as well. They even gave us that recent swap "improvement" of letting guys pick up trips that take them within 30 minutes of a FAR violation instead of the 1 hour rule we've had for years.
Gee thanks. There goes some more jobs.
Well, lets see. How long have we been using the current manning formula? About what, five to six years?, since the introduction of PBS.

We have gone though at least a cycle and a half of data in that time to see what they truly can staff the airplane at. If guys were Trip Parking en masse it did contribute to it. I suspect it was a player.
Quote: Shiz, you are in denial. And I think you are going to be hugely disappointed in the result. I hope I'm wrong and you are right. I really do. But I don't think that's going to turn out to be the case.

Tell you what... If our opener is for full restoration (C2K+COLA) with significant get-backs on scope. And if we end up with C2012 with our domestic narrowbody guys averaging over $230K for Captains and over $140K for F/O's (like SWA) while at least holding the line on our current scope. If either of those things happen, the steak dinner with all the trimmings is on me. You just name the time and place!
Quote: Well denial isn't just reserved for dalpa "apologists". I'll raise your steak dinner if you actually think the NMB would release us in the next century to achieve your demands.
Well that does seem to be the conventional wisdom on our MEC. But I don't agree. I think a strong case can be made for SWA W2 compensation at a minimum and C2K+COLA at a maximum. A sound, professional case needs to be made for this, not "demands." But it sure is a lot easier to come up with excuses why something difficult can't be done than it is to buckle down and determine to achieve it.

Sadly, Rather B Fishin's line of thinking is exactly what I think we're going to ultimately see from this MEC. They just can't come out and say it in so many words right now because they would have a revolt on their hands and would likely be replaced with DPA. If they wait until we're actually into Section 6, they know it will be infinitely more difficult to replace them.
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Quote: Since I discussed ETFs earlier, I thought I would use a real world example for everyones education. None of what I am saying is investment advice or recommendations to buy or sell anything.

I will use two 3X etf sectors for the example and the reader will have to pull up his own chart to see. The ETFs are FAS and FAZ (3x financial) and TNA and TZA (3x small biz). In my earlier investment discussion, I made a statement that the market trades technically...

All you need to know today is that the S and P support level is 1120 (technically). If the S and P trades and trends significantly below that (ie 1110 and trending lower), it has broken thru. Roughly the next support level with real resistance is around an S and P of 850...what this means is pull out your parachute 'cause you're in free fall.

Frankly, if you are a savvy investor, I have given you all the information you need for your investing day. Dont be rash, dont be greedy, and none of this is advice to do anything.
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