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You guys are missing the "between the lines". The mention of potential consolidation in the last paragraph is no accident. In fact it makes me think moves are already afoot to acq either AK or both AK and Hawaiian.

W slot swap done and in hand... The western front is next.

I say NO interim mergers. Agreements. Pwa's of ANY kind, until C12 is in the bag. I have moved backwards since this merger as have ALL of my W2's and I'm sick of it.

I couldn't agree more. My younger brother has an interview with Alaska next week. I am supporting him 100% and told him that is the place to be right now. That said, I can see a situation where if hired he quickly moves to 20% up the Alaska list (they are said to be hiring 300 people.....lots of planes coming online...and have a seniority list of less than 1500). I am 10% at Delta.

I will be happy for my brother but I am getting tired of the backward slide. I feel for the guys in L.A. Somethings gotta give. I say no more Delta mergers until pay and work rules are restored to what they were pre BK and Delta has hired some more pilots.

tsquare

10-20-2011 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1072722)

Term limits should be self enforced in my opinion. Rather than being forced out of office by an official term limit, I always enjoy the contortions of the candidate excusing why his/her performance is so good that he/she just KNOWS that their constituents wants them to continue. That person gets my NO vote everytime.

Carl

Yeah, and we all know how well that concept works in the US Congress. :rolleyes: You are gonna have to do a lot better than this to convince me to sign a card Carl. That and Caplinger needs to come out with a statement that there will be no challenge to the seniority list... ever. Sorry, but I do not trust him in this regard especially since he hired the clown from USAPA. So it's very simple... have make a public statement to that effect, and I sign a card.

tsquare

10-20-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1072803)

The red Swingline was broken a while back and can't be used anymore as in the past.

Unless you are SWAPA and SWA... there it can be used just fine.

georgetg

10-20-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1072856)

Unless you are SWAPA and SWA... there it can be used just fine.

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Originally Posted by georgetg

There's some experimentation with a smaller less capable one going on in Texas though...I hear it can have unexpected results.

I think time will tell but I'm not sure the future will be as canyon-blue as envisioned by the aforementioned groups...

Cheers
George

Express pilot

10-20-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1072717)

Easy. You say: "Our JV partner (Air France) has this, and our largest competitor (Southwest) has this. We want this as well. You want to call the NMB or shall I?"

Carl

Thats a Homerun Carl, just like Texas will this weekend against the Cards?

tsquare

10-20-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1072857)

I think time will tell but I'm not sure the future will be as canyon-blue as envisioned by the aforementioned groups...

Cheers
George

Oh no, I think it will. SWA will hammer the AT guys, and they will complain about it for awhile, but there aren't enough of them to make any difference. The FOs are happy to have a job.. and they are getting a nice raise eventually, and since Americans have painfully short memories, they will forget about it after a few years. The former AT captains will be written off as "who cares about them anyway?", because there are too few of them. So, SWA wins... again. But They gonna get they butts kicked in ATL and LGA. book it.

tsquare

10-20-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1072862)

Thats a Homerun Carl, just like Texas will this weekend against the Cards?

Hell to the no... Go Cards!!

chuck416

10-20-2011 09:19 PM

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Timbo

10-21-2011 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1072825)

Because Tim is ALPA?

On a serious note... if DPA replaces ALPA, does Moak stay at ALPA Nat'l or does he become an ALPA orphan?

Randy Babbit remained ALPA Pres. long after EAL was gone.

And look where that got him.

DAL73n

10-21-2011 02:39 AM

Significant!!!!

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1072736)

I agree that sounded good and was more in line with what I want to hear from TO. However, I'm reminded of Bill Clinton's "definition of is." I'd like for TO to elaborate a little more on his idea of "significant." I've heard the COLA we obtained to our bankruptcy/emergency rates described as "significant." I hope we're not talking that kind of "significant." :eek:

I agree - it's nice to see some kind of talk from the top. I do agree with the fact that in public there won't/shouldn't be specifics about what we are going for. Another thing is I am praying that everyone is putting high goals in their surveys to support a robust opener. Since I never saw a dime from C2K I am looking to make a lot more money with a lot less work in the next contract.

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