Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1074510)

Wow, 24 days in and still at least one 88 guy has a 0 raw. Key word -> 88.

Originally Posted by Model Citezen (Post 1074438)

Friend of mine knows one of the reps. He told him that he got a couple of emails in the middle of last night from pilots in China who were unable to fill out the survey. Seems like the blocked access to a BALLOT website.

42% plus 5,5,5.


MC

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1074510)

Wow, 24 days in and still at least one 88 guy has a 0 raw. Key word -> 88.

Originally Posted by Columbia (Post 1074519)

Nice necklace, Pujols. My daughter has a similar one.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1074516)

What, they been stuck there for 2 weeks? Lame

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1074462)

50% day one. Would accept as low as 30% on day one, but only if we reached C2K+COLA by the end of the contract, and no longer than 5 years to reach it.

Originally Posted by DAWGS (Post 1074305)

I think you're right regarding mergers, however when the majority of these groups are younger and have better relative seniority vs. Delta, we bottom dwellers will stagnate. The retirements won't help most of us because we will retire before them. The ironic part is Alaska pilots have had their seniority inflated due in part to its relationship with Delta, to the detriment of our pilot group. This same boost to their seniority would be used against us in the SLI. I do agree, I would rather have it in-house via merger vs. outsourced. My first choice is to reign in scope with this contract. Many are benefiting from the great outsourcing our contract allows except the mainline Delta pilot. No amount of money from RA will get a yes vote out of me unless scope is significantly reigned in. Scope is the gift that keeps on giving to MGT and other pilot groups, but has been the consistent boot in my arse! This worst part is we are only to blame.

Originally Posted by Whidbey (Post 1074303)

I get the feeling that is what our union is preparing us for. The company will certainly argue that the passage of time (and the JCBA) constitute a tacit acceptance of that position on our part. Accepting marginal pay and work rule improvements "over the life of a contract" will certainly reset the baseline.

I understand and agree with the ALPA stance on not publicizing our survey results and not publicizing our negotiating priorities. I can even live with not knowing what the opener is.

However, after the last two road shows I went to where I heard TO and other union guys be very critical of the APA, I get the feeling that they are of the opinion that aiming lower to get something now is better than negotiating for an extended period of time for (larger) gains they don't feel are achievable.