Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Delta's adjusted debt:

Delta's reported debt:

The last "increase" was offset by cash and equivalents. Source, boardingarea.com

Delta's reported debt:

The last "increase" was offset by cash and equivalents. Source, boardingarea.com
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I'm not a fan of separate categories for reserve and line holders. I did that pre-merger. I had the unfortunate experience of being a line holder without a line for three months in a row. I had some options. The first month I chose the permanent long call thing. I've never flown so much in one month in my life. The next two months I did straight reserve. It was frustrating to expect to be a line holder, then not get a schedule. Come to think of it, it was no better than what we have now. I don't understand why some people want it so bad. I'm pretty sure the only reason why we had it then was to keep the red book employees as line holders in the wide bodies while senior green book employees were stuck on reserve.
1. Commuter pilot block holder and didn't get a line: most chose to sit reserve at home. The company would have to positive space the pilot to the hub and assign the trip with enough time to provide the commute (they basically never sat short call because they couldn't make a last minute coverage).
2. Live in base pilot block holder without a line: no reason to sit reserve at home for 65 hours when you can just choose reserve for 75 hours. Again, as someone living in base, you would certainly fly much more than a commuter that was at home.
I don't like having the separate categories.
Be careful in MEX peps:
US Airways flight attendant found dead in Mexico City hotel - CNN
Preliminary reports do not indicate a safety breach at the hotel, according to a statement from the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA) Council 66. "Therefore, we do not believe our crew members are at risk. However, until this matter is resolved, layover crews will be temporarily relocated to an alternative location," said the union.
US Airways flight attendant found dead in Mexico City hotel - CNN
Preliminary reports do not indicate a safety breach at the hotel, according to a statement from the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA) Council 66. "Therefore, we do not believe our crew members are at risk. However, until this matter is resolved, layover crews will be temporarily relocated to an alternative location," said the union.
"If nobody snuck into the hotel, it must have been an inside job. Therefore the hotel is perfectly safe. Which is why we must go to a diferent hotel."
Right....
I think that the people who are for it are commuters. If you live in base, then the block/reserve separate groups suck if you are a bubble person. For example:
1. Commuter pilot block holder and didn't get a line: most chose to sit reserve at home. The company would have to positive space the pilot to the hub and assign the trip with enough time to provide the commute (they basically never sat short call because they couldn't make a last minute coverage).
2. Live in base pilot block holder without a line: no reason to sit reserve at home for 65 hours when you can just choose reserve for 75 hours. Again, as someone living in base, you would certainly fly much more than a commuter that was at home.
I don't like having the separate categories.
1. Commuter pilot block holder and didn't get a line: most chose to sit reserve at home. The company would have to positive space the pilot to the hub and assign the trip with enough time to provide the commute (they basically never sat short call because they couldn't make a last minute coverage).
2. Live in base pilot block holder without a line: no reason to sit reserve at home for 65 hours when you can just choose reserve for 75 hours. Again, as someone living in base, you would certainly fly much more than a commuter that was at home.
I don't like having the separate categories.
Now, in a vacuum, I liked it for probably the reason you said. As a commuter and on the bubble (current Delta system) one can bid into a position thinking they will be a line holder. IE, in my case I bid into SEA 330 with a 70% qualifier. So far so good, but what happens if in the next AE a bunch of senior dudes bid in and I drop to 90% and therefore reserve. In the NWA system, that wouldn't happen, there would be no line holder openings and one is safe........unless there are displacements then my displacement choice would kick in, line holder on something/someplace else.
We have much bigger fish to fry in the next section 6 and this will be too hard to get done in the section 6 context IMHO. I've flown with the father of the monthly APE system at NWA, and it was a multi-year process as I recall the stories.
Ferd
Separate block/reserve has WAY too many moving parts to discuss in a vacuum like this. Temp, recall rights, monthly AE and those are just the ones that pop up quickly in my head. If we went to something like this, it would have to be done very carefully or it will be some sort of hybrid mess that none of us will recognize or like.
Now, in a vacuum, I liked it for probably the reason you said. As a commuter and on the bubble (current Delta system) one can bid into a position thinking they will be a line holder. IE, in my case I bid into SEA 330 with a 70% qualifier. So far so good, but what happens if in the next AE a bunch of senior dudes bid in and I drop to 90% and therefore reserve. In the NWA system, that wouldn't happen, there would be no line holder openings and one is safe........unless there are displacements then my displacement choice would kick in, line holder on something/someplace else.
We have much bigger fish to fry in the next section 6 and this will be too hard to get done in the section 6 context IMHO. I've flown with the father of the monthly APE system at NWA, and it was a multi-year process as I recall the stories.
Ferd
Now, in a vacuum, I liked it for probably the reason you said. As a commuter and on the bubble (current Delta system) one can bid into a position thinking they will be a line holder. IE, in my case I bid into SEA 330 with a 70% qualifier. So far so good, but what happens if in the next AE a bunch of senior dudes bid in and I drop to 90% and therefore reserve. In the NWA system, that wouldn't happen, there would be no line holder openings and one is safe........unless there are displacements then my displacement choice would kick in, line holder on something/someplace else.
We have much bigger fish to fry in the next section 6 and this will be too hard to get done in the section 6 context IMHO. I've flown with the father of the monthly APE system at NWA, and it was a multi-year process as I recall the stories.
Ferd

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