Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1083846)

Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, it will probably be more in the future.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1083787)

Super and all,

Don't believe everything you read on the internet. MEM is NOT that senior. Looking at just the plug doesn't begin to tell the whole story. The most accurate (imho) is to look at the average seniority for the entire category. Here's what I found (pulled off the Dec 2011 Category List):

For the 320 Captain
ATL: 3647
SLC: 3921
MEM: 3974
MSP: 4023
DTW: 4296

For the DC9 Captain
MEM: 5929
DTW: 6028
MSP: 6623

And by way of comparison, considering where these guys are most likely to go if they elect to change airplanes:

ATL 73NA: 2797
ATL M88A: 4864

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1083807)

Yeah, I'm really not trying to... but I can see how it might come across that way.




I'd be careful with making that assumption. Delta is well known to change the mix of mainline/regional on a whim. Not that this is a perfectly comparable example... But when we moved to Little Rock 5 1/2 years ago, there were 3 88's and probably about 5 or 6 RJ's per day to ATL. It was a very doable commute because of the 88's. Eventually, it became 11 RJ's, 0 mainline, and the commute became an absolute nightmare. And that's with only maybe about 10 Delta pilots commuting out of LIT!

With the entire pilot base going away in MEM, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a higher percentage of RJ's flying between MEM and ATL than there is today. (Just look around in MEM next time you're there and see how many RJ's versus mainline you see.) Plus, I suspect you're going to have a lot of folks trying that commute. Ask the DFW/ATL commuters how well that works out.

Anyway, like I said before... just some things to consider. There are many other factors in making a decision like that.

Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1083860)

If there are any connections still left in MEM (probably some RJs just like in CVG, although the future numbers will likely be reduced), we will probably continue to have mainline flights from ATL. We have to have connections to Hattisburg, MS you know? ATL to CVG still has almost all mainline, and I beleive that will be the same with MEM.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1083859)

First of all, I was talking about FO's. I know you're a senior-ish 73N unionoid captain, so you can't see beyond that. ;)

When you look at the 320 FO distribution of seniority on the DEC 2011 list, MEM is more akin to the distribution in ATL than it is in MSP or DTW. Plus, when you oversimplify things the way you just did by just slapping it with an average, you miss a lot of things. There is over a 1000 number gap in the 320 FO list (between 10500-11500), which skews things significantly if you look at just an average.

My point was that this can fairly easily flush the ATL 320B list. I'm hoping the CA slots and A330 slots added in ATL help offset this. Closing a southern base and having more and more flying moved to NYC will only make the south even more super senior in reality.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1083862)

I think you're right for at least the next few years. Although if Delta pulls with MEM what NW did with ATL years ago, the MEM guys are in for a treat of a commute. I remember stories of it taking a couple days for FAs to get home and such.

As has been previously stated, the purple tailed monster will prove a great benefit to those living in mem.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1083656)

On the other board, someone mentioned the American pilots might have a TA with a 3 percent raise up front followed by 1 percent every year. Is anyone else hearing this? We're screwed if this is true.