Your translation is only accurate in your comic book world, Nu. I prefer to speak for myself, thanks.

I really don't care what the MEC does on this one. All I want is a process followed (election, amended policy, continuance, etc.) that is transparent and explainable to the membership. Is that different from your point of view?

You still never cleared up your obfuscation...why the angst should a normally scheduled election be conducted? Can you answer the same question I asked Johnso?

I want to bump my own post. While I'm at it, why can't ALPA should set minimum hourly rates that no airline can negotiate under.

Talked to my rep. He thinks this meeting could get ugly depending on the reasoning the vote for neg committee members was called for. He and 13 other reps thinks the timing is bad, especially because dalpa asked for early openers. In his view that means we are too close to section six if not already there. Thus the special meeting so as to give the leaders direction, instead of a conference call vote.

An election for the negotiating committee has not been called. The policy manual sets a "normal" timeline. The MEC gets to decide if this is "normal."

I only have an imagination that is kept fertile by the constant rain of bovine poo from above.

It's all about context. It's about what isn't being said...which in UnionSpeak(tm) is consistently more important than what is.

As a reader of the HCS, I am sure you are well aware of that.

In this case, a perfectly routine election, called for by the Policy Manual, could be simply conducted by teleconference.

The fact that the majority of the LEC members have decided that this needs to be in person tells everyone that the poo is raining in ATL.

Speaking of Poo....I was not aware that the company has asked for early openers. Interesting...cue Bar for his interpretation.

Nu

Delta's about to publicly release information on an airplane order. If that airplane order requires modification of Section 1, then THAT is driving the timeline in fast forward. ALPA's respect for its non disclosure agreements is not only appropriate, it is also convenient.

If the NC swap is made quickly, without folks running for office, it will be an interesting dot to connect. Also have to put a watch on ERJ, PNW, SKYW & RJET stock. TSA is privately held. The fact they got Compass puts them in the game.

I wasn't aware of that either.

Well, if the MEC decides to relax scope again, I hope the DPA has a post office box big enough for all the cards they'll get.

FWIW, I spoke to two reps in two different bases, and they both said NO to scope sales.

Nu

Do not ask ALPA to do something national. Also, do not stare directly at ALPA and always refer to them in the third person

I think PG is probably right about the affect on the seniority list. The choice of staying senior on smaller equipment or being junior on larger equipment would likely be gone. No matter what, there will be some unintended consequences.

But what really bothers me is if you have one pay scale for captains and on for FOs then someone is going to get a pay cut. Whatever we do with the pay scale, it will have to be cost neutral vs the current pay scale. I see no way to pay everyone on the same scale without the top guys taking a paycut. Even assuming we were going to get large pay raises, then the guys at the top would get nothing while everyone else had their pay brought up to the top rate.

There are a lot of senior widebody FOs who have not bid narrowbody captain. The hit to their lifestyle was not worth the small pay raise. But if every captain seat paid the same as a 777 seat, then you can bet your ass a large number of them will want a captain seat....any captain seat. If you get to one pay rate do you rebid the whole airline? How much will that cost the company?

From a scope standpoint, if you support a single pay scale you may as well sell out the 100 seaters. There is no way the company will invest in a 100 seat aircraft when they have to pay the pilots the same as a 777 pilot.

Getting away from different rates per aircraft sounds great in theory, but in practice it can never happen at an airline like Delta. Too many obstacles.