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Justdoinmyjob 11-12-2011 04:57 PM

Anyone know why we're now locked out of the crew room in LGA at night? No one is allowed in there between 9pm and 4am.

forgot to bid 11-12-2011 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1084063)
You have no idea what it is to lose the majority of your team... we have FIVE seniors playing... five. The starting QB is a true freshman that was going to be redshirted... but hey... Jack Daniels comes from Tennessee too :cool:

We're not much better. ghosts of 2008 when Tubbs pulled the golden parachute after a booster contacted Houston Nutt. Thank goodness we did not get Houston Nutt.

forgot to bid 11-12-2011 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1084079)
Anyone know why we're now locked out of the crew room in LGA at night? No one is allowed in there between 9pm and 4am.

No commuting clause?

That's rough. What if every base did that? :eek:

I'll be honest, I thought about sleeping in one of our DALN bases crew rooms last week when we landed at 2am and was going to deadhead out on a 530am flight. Didn't seem worth going to the hotel. But I went. And didn't sleep a wink.

DLpilot 11-12-2011 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1084079)
Anyone know why we're now locked out of the crew room in LGA at night? No one is allowed in there between 9pm and 4am.

Someone said that apparently an employee decided to use the crew room as a bathroom and left a bottle of urine in there. So now no one is allowed during those hours.

forgot to bid 11-12-2011 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1084092)
Someone said that apparently an employee decided to use the crew room as a bathroom and left a bottle of urine in there. So now no one is allowed during those hours.

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iceman49 11-12-2011 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1084092)
Someone said that apparently an employee decided to use the crew room as a bathroom and left a bottle of urine in there. So now no one is allowed during those hours.

At least it was left in a bottle!:)

whaledriver1 11-12-2011 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1084092)
Someone said that apparently an employee decided to use the crew room as a bathroom and left a bottle of urine in there. So now no one is allowed during those hours.






Maybe he should have just used an empty Mike's Hard Lemonade bottle... unless the CP is running a lab test? Why the heck is the CP locking out the rest of the pilots? I believe the crew rooms are contractual 24/7... contact your alpo rep.

DAL73n 11-12-2011 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1084075)
There's a pretty good negotiator's notepad that came out soon after the merger that explains the whole AE process (including reinstatements).

I don't think you are seatlocked if you are reinstated, but someone that's had that happen firsthand will come along shortly and confirm or set me straight.

The notepad is on Deltanet somewhere. Maybe near the bottom of the Crew Resources page. You can probably also find it somewhere in the File Library on the DALPA MEC website.

Call DALPA - they have people that will give you the straight stuff (including where to find it in the CBA) - this is one of the things we pay dues for.

JobHopper 11-12-2011 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by mikea72580 (Post 1084066)
Can you be re-instated to a BASE/CATEGORY where a vacancy has not been posted?

Yes.


Originally Posted by mikea72580 (Post 1084066)
Also, are you seat locked if you utilize a re-instatement?

No. Been there, done that.

forgot to bid 11-12-2011 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by mikea72580 (Post 1084066)
Can you be re-instated to a BASE/CATEGORY where a vacancy has not been posted? For example DTW 320. Also, are you seat locked if you utilize a re-instatement? Anyone know the answer or where to find this language? (Other than, " look at the CBA")

There is the Transition Working Group Notepad 09-18 Filing of Vacancies that has some information.

But as to your question, that's intriguing. Reinstatement's are run with the AE's, not MDs or VDs. I would guess that if there is a lot of shuffling going on and now there are vacancies in that category and they intend to fill those vacancies then the reinstatement would kick in right along with how an AE would do it. FWIW, I went NYC ER to ATL ER when there were no vacancies posted on the AE.

It says:


A pilot who has been involuntarily displaced may be reinstated to the category from which he
was displaced ahead of pilots attempting to bid into that category if a vacancy is posted in that
category with a conversion period that begins within 180 days of the conversion date of the MD.
Reinstatements to a category will be awarded in seniority order, and are processed as part of the
AE bid awards. Available reinstatement rights are shown on the DBMS page for entering AE
bid preferences.
But this is all I could find on the PWA and I just want to ask what does posted mean? Is posted when it's announced on paper or posted is any time a vacancy is created during the AE process and it is to be filled?
23.F. says:
12. A pilot who holds an MD will, without regard to the standing bids of senior pilots, be
reinstated to the category from which he was displaced if:
a. a vacancy is posted in such category and the earliest conversion date stated in the
posting is within the 180 day period following the conversion date of his MD,
b. his standing bid indicates a request for such reinstatement, and
c. such vacancy has not been filled by reinstatement of a pilot senior to him who was
also awarded an MD from such category.
Whatever you do check the box to say you desire reinstatement.


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