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forgot to bid 12-13-2011 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1101235)
(Two for the price of one.)


GJ

So they're giving discounts for this now?

LeineLodge 12-13-2011 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1101122)
Now picture yourself as the jet descends through 18,000 feet. SWFFSWFSWRFGHHSWSWWISTLESCHWWSEFFSQWWWHWSHGQ (at 130 db level)

CA: Approach Check
FO: WHAT?
CA: A P P R O A C H CHECK!
FO: OHKAY!
FO: guard your eyes
CA: WHAT? SPEAK UP, WHERE'S YOUR RUBBER BAND?
FO: (initiates search for rubber band, having missed its departure from the ICS, then ricochet off the clock and lodging in the window track)
NYC ATC: Delta 982 turn left heading 040
FO: OK, I'M DOING THE RECALL GUARD YOUR EYES
FO: push, mash, WHACK, THUMP, WHACK, WHACK, SLAP
NYC ATC: Delta 982 turn left heading 040
CA: What's Wrong?
FO: Damn Recall. CAN YOU PUSH YOUR BUTTON?
NYC ATC: Delta 982 turn left heading 040
CA: Delta 982, heading 040
CA: YOU NEED TO TURN UP YOUR RADIO
FO: ALTIMETERS .... .

Dude, you nailed it with this one! :D

The 73N is a wierd tranny of an airplane. It's got some really nice stuff (FMC) and some amazingly antique stuff (just about everything else).

That perfectly described every descent from FL280 down to about 10,000'. I'm always amazed that more guys don't like the rubber band. I'm already deaf in my left ear, and I've only been on this thing for 6 months.

Herman 12-13-2011 02:39 PM

Good Luck.
 

Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 1101169)
Random question here. Has anyone on here gotten a vasectomy? And how long was the recovery before flying? My Dr said 3 days but that seems optimistic to me.

It all depends brother Ed. Is this the 1st time they tried?

contrails 12-13-2011 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1101242)
Dude, you nailed it with this one! :D

The 73N is a wierd tranny of an airplane. It's got some really nice stuff (FMC) and some amazingly antique stuff (just about everything else).

That perfectly described every descent from FL280 down to about 10,000'. I'm always amazed that more guys don't like the rubber band. I'm already deaf in my left ear, and I've only been on this thing for 6 months.

Okay, what's the rubber band do?

clancy 12-13-2011 02:50 PM

Holds the intercom switch.

forgot to bid 12-13-2011 02:51 PM

Holds it to what?

buzzpat 12-13-2011 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1101254)
Holds it to what?

Transmit (or hot mic). Its great when you're recovering from a vasectomy!;)

Timbo 12-13-2011 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1101239)
Ok, so who is getting the money from the auctioned slots at each airport?

If it is the carriers: Did DAL "sell" the DCA slots and LCC "sell" the LGA slots since that is who held them PRIOR to the deal, or did each "sell" the slots AFTER the trade?

If it is the FAA who gets the money......F that.

Southwest gets the slots, Dominos gets the money!

orvil 12-13-2011 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 1101169)
Random question here. Has anyone on here gotten a vasectomy? And how long was the recovery before flying? My Dr said 3 days but that seems optimistic to me.


Ed,

Are you sure you want to do this? What if the balloon goes up and you are one of the last surviving males on earth? You will be expendable.

Just two words: Soylent Green

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If you fly Fi Fi it's:

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Bucking Bar 12-13-2011 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 1101158)
Back in the mid-nineties or so Boeing 737's rudder PCU came under scrutiny as a result of some serious accidents. Had the FAA ordered the fleet grounded (like they did with the DC-10 after the American crash in 1979) that would likely have bankrupted SWA.

I've always wondered if there was political pressure brought to bear on the FAA because of the effect on SWA....naaah, couldn't happen.

That file was on my boss's desk two jobs ago ... there was incredible political pressure to find the problem, but the engineering side was never convinced the Parker Hannifin PCU was the cause. Other faults including missing fasteners in the rudder control system were found and it could be that some other part of the system jammed. It appears whatever the problem was, redesigning the system so that a single point failure could not bring down the jet fixed it.

IMHO the FAA focuses way too much on paper pushing and way too little on the flight characteristics of the airplanes they Certify. A single source malfunction should not bring down a Part 25 airplane.

The 737's rudder control system was never a secret and nothing was discovered. It simply lacked any redundancy or a feedback loop which would cancel a run away PCU. I would agree with you, going further that the 737 should have never been Certified as originally designed. If so, it stands to reason the Certificate of Airworthiness should have been rescinded until an approved design was installed.*

* I would eat my words, if the 737 as originally designed flew fine with a rudder hard over (never tried it and I had moved on before the fix was in). My understanding is flight crews were trained around the design problem, which was the reason why a five year compliance window was granted.



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