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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1104059)

I don't have any former colleagues there. AMR hasn't hired since I was in high school, and no one I know is dumb enough to go to LCC.

U were in high-school in 2001? Today I officially stop listening to your complaining! ;)

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Originally Posted by rcd73 (Post 1104113)

the swa crews received an average seniority bump of around 10%. The fl crews lost an average of 20% and an extreme of 34%.

oh em gee

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1104048)

No vote for me. That one was easy.

Me too. 20% is nowhere close to restorative or even SWA. And anything other than a solid reversal of outsourcing is a non-starter. For me, it's going to take both... pay and scope. But scope without significantly restorative pay increases is not enough to do it by itself.

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Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 1104117)

U were in high-school in 2001? Today I officially stop listening to your complaining! ;)

Yeah no doubt... He might only be number one on the list for a mere 10 years or so.. unless of course he goes somewhere else...

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Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1104112)

It's not my job to bash SWA projections, but:

1.) Do you think it's a fair comparison to use SWA pilots seniority from the integrated seniority list? I understand that they just got a big bump from the SLI, but are they able to exercise that increased seniority right now?

2.) Do you you thinks it's wise to base upgrade time based on the company's projected 2.1% growth? I've never seen a company grow after a merger and all the SWA commercials I see that tout "new service" are routes that Air Tran served for years. If I had a dollar for every time an airline made the unfulfilled promise that a merger would increase synergies and actually see growth because of it, I'd have an extra $10 by now. :D

Fair questions;

1. The analysis site only contains the integrated lists. You're correct though, the seniority bump will be more of a slow growth. Think of a boil:D The gain will be realized over a 2 year period.

2. The growth is conservative and the analysis was done by the MC based on orders. The number is actually 3.6 % if you include all options. 2.1% isn't exactly a rocket ship. SWA has already turned their current options into firm deliveries.

Anything could happen really. Maybe GK will sell all of the 717's to DAL.

:eek:

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Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 1104117)

U were in high-school in 2001? Today I officially stop listening to your complaining! ;)

Wait. You make a good point. He did say he had over 30 years left. :confused:

Hockey, you might leave DAL in a couple of years and you have 30 years left? Dude. Really?

Don't you know you have the world by the.....:D

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1104119)

oh em gee

WE ARE ALPA. So is Tim. ;)

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1103994)

You know what really irks me? When people are surprised when something like LGA happens. It is legal by our PWA, and until guys "Get Religion" wrt to scope, they are always going to be surprised when the company does something they are totally within their contractual bounds to do. Only way to fix it is to fix the PWA, and until we stop looking at pay over scope, nothing will change. Period.

^^^This^^^

With one change:
Scope AND Pay

Let's not make those two items mutually contradictory.
When even Bill "unlimited rjs" Swellbar calls our scope "weak" we have a problem...

Cheers
George

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1104092)

Attilla is a joke, whoever designed it is the only ones profiting.

Could it be de-icing numbers? I noticed that as well, especially in the mornings.

I think we have discussed this before, but I believe in Attila. I am not sure how me we spend on it. I hope some very smart people have done their homework and it indeed makes us money. However, from an untrained observer, flying into the busiest airport in the world is very easy. And I can't remember the last time I've been vectored. You fly the route assigned to you, and ATC speeds you up plus or minus 10 knots of so. Seems to me that something is working.

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Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1103963)

Ah, yes... Liquid Larry. DFW Refugee and I deployed with him a couple of times. Now there's a guy that had some big layovers. Good F/E, though.

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Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1103963)

I was in VQ3 from 82-85; DFW was there from 84-87. A fun squadron, but three years of it (and Hawaii) was plenty for me.

Too many Mai Tais for CVG. :cool:

Mele Kalikimaka, Y'all!!! :D