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Old 01-12-2012 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I do find it amusing that this is what Delta.com says about the new LGA routes: A portion of travel for some itineraries may be on the Delta Connection® carriers: Atlantic Southeast Airlines, Chautauqua, Comair, Compass Airlines, GoJet, Mesaba, Pinnacle Airlines, Shuttle America and SkyWest.

9 airlines. We're playing with fire.
9 Airlines, and this is after BigSky, ACA, and Freedom took themselves out of the game.

Will Eagle become number 10?
Old 01-12-2012 | 06:25 PM
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9 Airlines, and this is after BigSky, ACA, and Freedom took themselves out of the game.

Will Eagle become number 10?
Eagle will hardly be relevant after this ordeal...
Old 01-12-2012 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
You want reserves to get a lower guarantee?
Guess you haven't flown reserve in a while.
Old 01-12-2012 | 06:29 PM
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Nevermind, it didn't sound funny anymore when I read it a second time.
Old 01-12-2012 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Herman
. Can you help a brother out?
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Old 01-12-2012 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
I think we should be able to bid SC and get paid an extra 2hrs above guarantee if we do it. It would help those who live in base pick up some extra cash and save those who commute a few hotel rooms. Great for all.

I for one live in base and would bid to do 6 days of short call every month if I got 2hrs above guarantee for each of the six days.
Can't say that makes much sense to me. I'm not even a line holder. I don't even live in base! But for 2 hrs a day for SC I'd be volunteering to commute in for SC. I think there a bigger fights to fight; fights that would have support from more of the pilot group. This, I'm afraid doesn't pass muster in the regard. I do like the RAW score credit for SC, though.
Old 01-12-2012 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I expect more from our flight pay loss funding slowplay.

Carl
Do they collect FPL for managing expectations on APC? Or is that the volunteer portion...
Old 01-12-2012 | 06:38 PM
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Can't say that makes much sense to me. I'm not even a line holder. I don't even live in base! But for 2 hrs a day for SC I'd be volunteering to commute in for SC. I think there a bigger fights to fight; fights that would have support from more of the pilot group. This, I'm afraid doesn't pass muster in the regard. I do like the RAW score credit for SC, though.
Then commute in for SC and get 82 hrs of pay.

I think if you polled all the DAL pilots that commute to reserve, the majority would support some version of what I presented. JMHO

If nothing less, 70 hrs pay for reservists needs to be fixed.
Old 01-12-2012 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL73n
How is the average line pilot getting 85 hours of pay a month with our rules. ALVs in the 70s, not a whole lot of open time, working 15+ days a month just to hit ALV (at least with the trips out west). Now if we had SWA rules with 6.0 hours min credit/DAY (means only 12 days of work for 72 hours) I could certainly see earning a lot more. Not to mention how do you make up for only 3:15/day of vacation/training. When I was hired I was told you could figure your pay by multiplying your pay rate by 1000 (in other words 1000 credit hours/year). BUT, that was back in the line of time days, trips touching for vacation (one week of vacation could turn in to three weeks off and could then pick up even more money if you wanted by picking up some more trips). Would love to know where the average line pilot is getting 85 hours (certainly not in the LAX base).
Call the MEC Treasurer. Ask him how they compute the average.

Ask him what set of data that they use, and if any of the data is removed...specifically, if any lines below a certain value are excluded from the average.

If you eliminate all of the lines that are less than, say, 70 hours, you'd be surprised how the average changes, especially when a LOT of lines that PBS generates are less than 70.

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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Then commute in for SC and get 82 hrs of pay.

I think if you polled all the DAL pilots that commute to reserve, the majority would support some version of what I presented. JMHO

If nothing less, 70 hrs pay for reservists needs to be fixed.
Oh, hell yes, I'd support it...I'd love the money. I'm just saying it doesn't make sense to me that reserves should be paid 2 hrs more for doing their job (while line holders nod in agreement?); and the reason for doing it is to help commuters out? My point is it doesn't achieve that because you'd have guys commuting for an extra 12 hours a month. Maybe you've just suckered me in to this argument that is actually intended as flame bait for someone like Pineapple Guy.
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