Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-02-2012, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Fessional
Come on Ice - surely you remember dual qual. After 5 months as MD-80 captain I was force temped to the DC-10 right seat for a month. Three bounces in the sim and off I went - dangerous! 
01-02-2012, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Completely remember dual qual, it was stupid than and stupid now in whatever manner its done. The only protection is to have it spelled out explicitly in the PWA.
The fact of having to self-learn the A320 while still trying to consolidate on the 73N pretty well spells out "egregious" in my book.......I know, shut up and color........
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01-02-2012, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Boo. I guess I could just burn it onto a CD and give you a completion code for when you finish reading it in full.
Text a brotha!
Text a brotha!
Text on its way.
01-02-2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Also, how many hours do you get paid while in training? Hopefully not 70. Thx.
Originally Posted by iaflyer
It's complicated, but basically the ALV, >if< you're in training the whole month. Otherwise it's prorated depending on how much you're in training and what trips you would of been assigned.
01-02-2012, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
So if you're going training in the next few months it will likely be around 72 hours of pay.
Make sure to bid "Max Credit" the months you're in training, as PBS will assign you trips, then remove them (Shadow Bidding is what it's called) so someone can actually fly them. You'll get paid what you would of been able to hold. For example, if you are in training the 15-30th of month one, your pay from Qualification Training will be 0.50 * ALV= 36. The rest of the pay for the month will come from either trips you flew in your old category or pro-rated reserve guarantee. It's possible to get less than ALV or 70 hrs (if reserve) because you couldn't hold productive trips.
01-02-2012, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Well.. no. If you are in training from the 1st to the 31, yes, but if you training splits two months, no.
Make sure to bid "Max Credit" the months you're in training, as PBS will assign you trips, then remove them (Shadow Bidding is what it's called) so someone can actually fly them. You'll get paid what you would of been able to hold. For example, if you are in training the 15-30th of month one, your pay from Qualification Training will be 0.50 * ALV= 36. The rest of the pay for the month will come from either trips you flew in your old category or pro-rated reserve guarantee. It's possible to get less than ALV or 70 hrs (if reserve) because you couldn't hold productive trips.
Make sure to bid "Max Credit" the months you're in training, as PBS will assign you trips, then remove them (Shadow Bidding is what it's called) so someone can actually fly them. You'll get paid what you would of been able to hold. For example, if you are in training the 15-30th of month one, your pay from Qualification Training will be 0.50 * ALV= 36. The rest of the pay for the month will come from either trips you flew in your old category or pro-rated reserve guarantee. It's possible to get less than ALV or 70 hrs (if reserve) because you couldn't hold productive trips.
For Feb I'll bid max credit though. Although, if PBS awards me trips and I complete OE in time will I be obligated to fly them? Or will it just be shadow bidding for pay purposes?
01-02-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FedElta
OK, I know everyone else has to do it, but my RAM is more limited than most.
The fact of having to self-learn the A320 while still trying to consolidate on the 73N pretty well spells out "egregious" in my book.......I know, shut up and color........
Happy New Year,
BG
The fact of having to self-learn the A320 while still trying to consolidate on the 73N pretty well spells out "egregious" in my book.......I know, shut up and color........
Happy New Year,
BG
01-02-2012, 04:29 PM
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Emirates: Most junior captain hired: Nov 2008 (777)
Don't know why I just posted that - just shocked, I guess.
Don't know why I just posted that - just shocked, I guess.
01-02-2012, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
Emirates: Most junior captain hired: Nov 2008 (777)
Don't know why I just posted that - just shocked, I guess.
Don't know why I just posted that - just shocked, I guess.
01-02-2012, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
I heard they may move ALL the 777 flying to DTW...we lost TLV, it's not coming back, and LOS. A F/A just last night told me they have been told that in March, they are going to put the 747 back on ATL-NRT.
So what's left? DXB and JNB and SYD. They can easily cover that from DTW, with deadheadding, just like they do now. This same F/A told me they were told, "ATL international flying will only be Africa and South America. NYC will do all the Europe and DTW will do all the Asia flying..."
Just remember..."Commuting is a Choice!"
So what's left? DXB and JNB and SYD. They can easily cover that from DTW, with deadheadding, just like they do now. This same F/A told me they were told, "ATL international flying will only be Africa and South America. NYC will do all the Europe and DTW will do all the Asia flying..."
Just remember..."Commuting is a Choice!"
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