Will

PCL corp in a message to it's employess stated that they are making money on the 180 CRJ's operated for Delta. They are losing money on the Q-400's and SF-340 for United and 15 CRJ-900 operated for Delta. I don't see the company being disolved but most likely shrinking.

forgot to bid

If I'm not mistaken you fly until you're in bucket 2.

To me this is how it technically could play out if the raw score buckets are large (80 points for bucket 1 on ATL88B which would be like 130 points for bucket 1 on NYC7ER):
Obviously there isn't a two pilot reserve category but when you take into account how the RUO works come every Monday and Tuesday then the pilots in the 40-50th percentile become the bottom pilots like pilot 2 in the above example.

They fly until they hit bucket 2, followed by the pilots in 30-40th percentile and so on up. The lucky pilots will hit 2 4-days and be in bucket 2, the others will be at the top of the RUO until the month is over.

Depending on the category, like ATLM88B, given the top 10% generally don't fly until week 3 or 4 anyways under the current raw system then with the new system they won't fly at all IF the first RAW score bucket is as large as 80 points.

So that's why i see this as a big change or loss of seniority for those in the top 11-50% of reserve. If the idea the most junior pilots are the ones who will in place of the senior pilots is not the case, it's the top half that will fly in place of the senior pilots. That's why I think given its category dependent that some categories need not have a raw score as high as 80, but from my talks with the union, it sure sounds like it will be.

Denny Crane

Ftb,

I think you are leaving out an important part of the big picture that will have a noticeable impact and that is the buckets only count for guys with the same days of availability. I think this is going to have smoothing out effect to your concerns.

Denny

forgot to bid

I'd agree if we staffed weekends the same as weekdays, we don't anymore.

So on monday/tuesday those with 4-5 days of availability are the ones with weekends off. The bottom pilot there is around 50% so they're #1 on the RUO, give or take. It's how it is on the first week of the month but now it'll be like this for 3 weeks possibly longer.

Now again all of this is negated with appropriate size buckets but if the buckets are large they're taking from senior pilots to give to the most senior pilots. We could change the mantra from you'll be senior one day to you just need to be #1.

PinnacleFO

Pinnacles crj 200 contract with Delta includes 141 200's that expire in 2017. The 900 contract is for 57 900's that go to 2023. 16 of those airplanes are owned by pinnacle and we expect them to be sold back to delta soon so that they can 2 for 1 them with "another DCI carrier" to park 32 more 200's. Our q400's are not making money for continental nor are our saabs so if those rates are not changed those planes are gone too.
Leads me to the following question, if those things happen we are left with 141 200s and 41 900s all flying for delta, could that be a good opportunity at that point for Delta to repurchase a bankrupt regional carrier and basically absorb them over time through a flow type situation as they park 200's in an attempt to eliminate a regional carrier and bring more flying back into mainline? Its not me saying hey just buy us so that i get a mainline job, its more saying, if delta wants to park 200's, here is 141 of them right here and with the upcoming retirements as pilots retire, you retire 200's as well and bring those pilots onto a bigger plane (on probation for a year since they didnt have to interview) It would also make sense if they wanted to bring on the c series because that plane will pay less anyways.
Ok i just woke up, but what if.........

Wingnutdal

Quick question, are we entitled to crew meals when deadheading domestically?

iaflyer

No.

No crew meals unless you're operating, it's scheduled longer than 5+30 and there is a meal for the first class passengers. Also, you get a meal if it's an international turn to say, Mexico or the islands, even if each leg is less than 5+30.

Wingnutdal

That's what I figured, thanks for the quick reply.

Going2Baja

Didn't know where to look....does anyone know if we can Yellow/Green slip while on vacation? Or can you get a Y/G that would take you into Vac? Lastly if Vac was awarded to a Res line and you already had that day off will you be paid for that Vac day?

Thanks All....Baja.

orvil

No, No, Not going to happen.