Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-21-2012 | 04:22 PM
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I'm trying to think of any station in the DAL system that
doesn't have a ton more RJ's and less mainline.
doesn't have a ton more RJ's and less mainline.
Question for Delta guys, It seems flying in and out of DTW lately there seems to be a ton more RJ's and less mainline stuff except for the heavy jets. How many pilots are based in DTW and how does it seem that Delta is utilizing the base since the merger? I know the DC 9 is going away, is there a crew base that is going to replace it?
01-21-2012 | 04:28 PM
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Rumor control
Maybe this has gotten some attention here, but after going back a few pages I didn't see it. I'm talking about the Touch & Go--Rumor control: What’s Up With This TWA Lawsuit I’ve Heard About?
So to sum up DALMEC's position about the TWA-ALPA lawsuit: The courts ruled against us but they were wrong and we were right. Nice defense. Maybe if they were just willing to admit that they erred they might learn something other than how do we try to convince others we're right even when we're just taking care of ourselves (ourselves being ALPA and not the people they're supposed to be representing). This isn't rumor control this is propaganda.
So to sum up DALMEC's position about the TWA-ALPA lawsuit: The courts ruled against us but they were wrong and we were right. Nice defense. Maybe if they were just willing to admit that they erred they might learn something other than how do we try to convince others we're right even when we're just taking care of ourselves (ourselves being ALPA and not the people they're supposed to be representing). This isn't rumor control this is propaganda.
01-21-2012 | 04:29 PM
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I'm kind of kidding but it might be true.
Brings up a question for those who understand the fleet:
Like 80 mentioned a bunch of MD-90s are coming in and 739s are coming and right now you do see 738s doing routes that are more due to capacity than using it to its full payload/range potential.
And am I wrong to think the 738s pack a better payload/range punch then the 739?
If so, I could foresee a DTW 73 base that for the first time doesn't take away from the other current 73 bases because that fleet is going to grow. I could see a draw down of 738 flying on routes where the 160 seat MD90 will do just fine and the 738 gets back to 738 type flying especially DTW.
To me, it seems like 73s are great for DTW and ATL. Airbi and 757s for the coasts and MD88s for short to mid range stuff out of all of the hubs and 90s for mid range stuff.
Sound about right? George? Gloopy? The rest of you smarty pants?
01-21-2012 | 04:34 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
From the regional forum:
With all the talk of scope restrictions, I'm curious to see the different scope rules of the majors. A good general comparison of the restrictions and provisions of the legacies would be greatly apperciated. I hope to educate myself of the size and complexities of scope for future heathly flight deck discussions. Any chart or link to realivent comparison material would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
With all the talk of scope restrictions, I'm curious to see the different scope rules of the majors. A good general comparison of the restrictions and provisions of the legacies would be greatly apperciated. I hope to educate myself of the size and complexities of scope for future heathly flight deck discussions. Any chart or link to realivent comparison material would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Continental Fifty 50 seat RJ’s, 79 Turboprop with 3 for 1 mainline small NB w/ 100 to 149 seats, 4 to 1 150 to 348 seats
Delta 153 71 to 76 seat RJ’s, 255 51 to 76 seat RJ’s, no limits on 50 seaters or turboprops, 3 for 1 71 to 76 seat RJ’s if mainline fleet >767 ( I think the total RJ fleet in use is around 750 jets right now )
United 70 RJ’s to 80,000lbs, 18 to 90,000lbs, unlimited turboprops
US Air 150 small RJ’s, 315 large RJ’s, 99 CRJ900’s
America West 75 RJ’s comprised of less than 50 jets @ < 70 seats, 38 @ < 84 seats
Hawaiian – flown by a single list
JetBlue – flown by a single list
Southwest – flown by a single list
Your post seemed mostly interested in RJ flying. The codeshare stuff is much more complex.
01-21-2012 | 04:52 PM
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And am I wrong to think the 738s pack a better payload/range punch then the 739?
If so, I could foresee a DTW 73 base that for the first time doesn't take away from the other current 73 bases because that fleet is going to grow. I could see a draw down of 738 flying on routes where the 160 seat MD90 will do just fine and the 738 gets back to 738 type flying especially DTW.
To me, it seems like 73s are great for DTW and ATL. Airbi and 757s for the coasts and MD88s for short to mid range stuff out of all of the hubs and 90s for .......
If so, I could foresee a DTW 73 base that for the first time doesn't take away from the other current 73 bases because that fleet is going to grow. I could see a draw down of 738 flying on routes where the 160 seat MD90 will do just fine and the 738 gets back to 738 type flying especially DTW.
To me, it seems like 73s are great for DTW and ATL. Airbi and 757s for the coasts and MD88s for short to mid range stuff out of all of the hubs and 90s for .......
The reason why a DTW 73 base makes sense is that the company wants to reduce the high credit of 73 rotations. Our layovers in DTW are typically pretty long and inefficient.
01-21-2012 | 05:05 PM
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Maybe this has gotten some attention here, but after going back a few pages I didn't see it. I'm talking about the Touch & Go--Rumor control: What’s Up With This TWA Lawsuit I’ve Heard About?
So to sum up DALMEC's position about the TWA-ALPA lawsuit: The courts ruled against us but they were wrong and we were right. Nice defense. Maybe if they were just willing to admit that they erred they might learn something other than how do we try to convince others we're right even when we're just taking care of ourselves (ourselves being ALPA and not the people they're supposed to be representing). This isn't rumor control this is propaganda.
So to sum up DALMEC's position about the TWA-ALPA lawsuit: The courts ruled against us but they were wrong and we were right. Nice defense. Maybe if they were just willing to admit that they erred they might learn something other than how do we try to convince others we're right even when we're just taking care of ourselves (ourselves being ALPA and not the people they're supposed to be representing). This isn't rumor control this is propaganda.
Hopefully more of us will wake up and realize any gains on the next contract will be more than wiped out by any assessments this ruling will entail.
Time for a new bargaining agent before the **** hits the fan.
01-21-2012 | 05:15 PM
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Good point. I have to say my inclination is to say "screw em' I'm going to 350 because that's what they cleared me too!" and ASAP and let them deal with it. However, clarification is as simple and safe as "climb to 350, do you need me to comply with the crossing restrictions?" Who knows if you do have that one or two controllers out of 10 who have a different interpretation.
In your above example, I do not ask for clarification but I do respond to the clearance this way: "Roger Delta 123 altitude restrictions cancelled, climbing to FL 350."
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01-21-2012 | 05:31 PM
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It does pass the "make sense test". But when you ask, even though you don't have to because it makes sense, and you get a contradictory response from ATC 1 or 2 times out of 10 (more like 2 or 3 times out of 10 in SLC) then it warrants a free 5 second querry. Every single time.
Exactly. "Resume Normal Speed" in those situations means nothing. Clarification is required because you know that ATC is incorrect on the phraseology or at the very least unsure about what's going on or being asked. So you get clarification. If they give you a "climb and maintain" and you waste a query only to be told 8 or 9 times out of 10 "um, yeah, duh! what else can it mean you big dummy!" then you might not win the top gun trophy for the day, but at least you'll graduate. During those 1 or 2 times out of 10 that you query a "climb/descend and maintain" where there are charted altitudes and you uncover a difference of expectations, that more than makes up for the other 8 or 9 wasted free 5 second radio calls.
Even if we fixed this issue 100% today with never another misunderstanding on either to come up, its reasonable to still be cautious for a while and ask anyway because there is no way to tell if the issue was fixed 100% until you get 100% correct responses for a while. So far, on either "climb/descend and maintain" with crossing restrictions and/or "resume normal speed" with charted speed restrictions, I'm still trapping way too many errors by asking to stop asking so therefore I will keep asking. Its as simple as that.
Exactly. "Resume Normal Speed" in those situations means nothing. Clarification is required because you know that ATC is incorrect on the phraseology or at the very least unsure about what's going on or being asked. So you get clarification. If they give you a "climb and maintain" and you waste a query only to be told 8 or 9 times out of 10 "um, yeah, duh! what else can it mean you big dummy!" then you might not win the top gun trophy for the day, but at least you'll graduate. During those 1 or 2 times out of 10 that you query a "climb/descend and maintain" where there are charted altitudes and you uncover a difference of expectations, that more than makes up for the other 8 or 9 wasted free 5 second radio calls.
Even if we fixed this issue 100% today with never another misunderstanding on either to come up, its reasonable to still be cautious for a while and ask anyway because there is no way to tell if the issue was fixed 100% until you get 100% correct responses for a while. So far, on either "climb/descend and maintain" with crossing restrictions and/or "resume normal speed" with charted speed restrictions, I'm still trapping way too many errors by asking to stop asking so therefore I will keep asking. Its as simple as that.
01-21-2012 | 05:33 PM
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The aircraft fleet booklet show 618 total RJ's in the Delta system as of 1/1/12. That number is continuing to decline, as there is only 1 delivery scheduled for this year and CMR is forecast to shed at least 24 CRJ-100/200 by this fall. I believe there will be a lot more change in that segment of the industry. Pinnacle Corp and Republic are both having signficant financial problems, and Skywest, Inc isn't making any money. The following was in a Pinnacle 8-K last week and is from a letter to all employees:
What happens next is not yet clear. Our hope is that we can reach agreement with all of the necessary parties on the changes we need to implement our turnaround plan and ensure the company’s continued viability. It is also possible that we may ultimately conclude the best way for us to achieve our goal is to use the court-supervised Chapter 11 process which, as you know, many other airlines have used successfully in recent years. Going that route could enable the company to change or cancel key contracts, obtain financing and take other important actions to implement the turnaround plan, all while continuing normal business operations.
What happens next is not yet clear. Our hope is that we can reach agreement with all of the necessary parties on the changes we need to implement our turnaround plan and ensure the company’s continued viability. It is also possible that we may ultimately conclude the best way for us to achieve our goal is to use the court-supervised Chapter 11 process which, as you know, many other airlines have used successfully in recent years. Going that route could enable the company to change or cancel key contracts, obtain financing and take other important actions to implement the turnaround plan, all while continuing normal business operations.
01-21-2012 | 05:34 PM
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Maybe this has gotten some attention here, but after going back a few pages I didn't see it. I'm talking about the Touch & Go--Rumor control: What’s Up With This TWA Lawsuit I’ve Heard About?
So to sum up DALMEC's position about the TWA-ALPA lawsuit: The courts ruled against us but they were wrong and we were right. Nice defense. Maybe if they were just willing to admit that they erred they might learn something other than how do we try to convince others we're right even when we're just taking care of ourselves (ourselves being ALPA and not the people they're supposed to be representing). This isn't rumor control this is propaganda.
So to sum up DALMEC's position about the TWA-ALPA lawsuit: The courts ruled against us but they were wrong and we were right. Nice defense. Maybe if they were just willing to admit that they erred they might learn something other than how do we try to convince others we're right even when we're just taking care of ourselves (ourselves being ALPA and not the people they're supposed to be representing). This isn't rumor control this is propaganda.
Carl
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