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02-09-2012 | 04:38 PM
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Answer to trip parking: make it public knowledge with listed names [of abusers].
Once in a blue moon it may be justified (short hours due to family emergency PD etc.), but never routine. Money should be made during contract negotiations, not contract work-arounds.
Sometimes peer pressure is a good thing. Transparency is never a bad thing. Problem is too many guys don't even realize they are part of the problem.
We should get rid of trip parking but lets be clear about 1 thing - trip parking is currently 100% legal. I think it sucks, but lets face it, guys are exploiting a loophole in the contract to their personal advantage.
Calling them abusers and publishing a list is not the right answer - closing the loophole is.
Disclaimer - I am 100% against trip parking, never parked a trip and never will, and think it is detrimental to all of us in the long run.
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02-09-2012 | 04:42 PM
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02-09-2012 | 04:47 PM
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02-09-2012 | 04:49 PM
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I'm sure they'll look the other way if you eat Turkey Bacon.
02-09-2012 | 04:49 PM
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Bar's comment was perhaps unfair when directed to slowplay or any pilot in particular, but I think his point is well taken. There are undeniably those among our senior ranks who are just running out the clock. They will trade scope for cash in a hot second.
02-09-2012 | 04:49 PM
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You are underestimating the intelligence of most of your fellow pilots. Most of us are smart enough to figure out that the W2 is the bottom line. Not all are going to take the time to dig into the numbers though. For example, $186.06 (SWA's 12 year Captain rate) X 105 TFP (SWA's pilots average TFP/month) works out to exactly the same pay check as a rate of $244.21 X 80 hours in a month.
We get sucked into these rate comparisons because that is the easiest thing to compare. With SWA, it is truly an apples and oranges comparison. DALPA could have done a much more credible job of providing relevant info to the pilots it represents by providing a more realistic comparison with SWA.
We get sucked into these rate comparisons because that is the easiest thing to compare. With SWA, it is truly an apples and oranges comparison. DALPA could have done a much more credible job of providing relevant info to the pilots it represents by providing a more realistic comparison with SWA.
02-09-2012 | 04:50 PM
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02-09-2012 | 04:50 PM
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02-09-2012 | 04:51 PM
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Interesting exchange.
Bar's comment was perhaps unfair when directed to slowplay or any pilot in particular, but I think his point is well taken. There are undeniably those among our senior ranks who are just running out the clock. They will trade scope for cash in a hot second.
Bar's comment was perhaps unfair when directed to slowplay or any pilot in particular, but I think his point is well taken. There are undeniably those among our senior ranks who are just running out the clock. They will trade scope for cash in a hot second.
02-09-2012 | 04:53 PM
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Interesting exchange.
Bar's comment was perhaps unfair when directed to slowplay or any pilot in particular, but I think his point is well taken. There are undeniably those among our senior ranks who are just running out the clock. They will trade scope for cash in a hot second.
Bar's comment was perhaps unfair when directed to slowplay or any pilot in particular, but I think his point is well taken. There are undeniably those among our senior ranks who are just running out the clock. They will trade scope for cash in a hot second.
Logically, we have a lot of momentum going into C2012 to keep things the way they are. ALPA's reasoning is sound, that they want to "clean out the underbrush" with agreements now (as they did on scheduling optimization and training) to keep the number of open items to a minimum during NMB supervised negotiations. I think that means using our current Section 1 as the template.
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