Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1132296)

And yippie, another 8-12 pilot jobs gone to DCI.

Nu

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1132292)

There are also those among our junior ranks that will trade a 5% raise for another no furlough clause.

Carl

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1132296)

And yippie, another 8-12 pilot jobs gone to DCI.

Nu

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1132306)

I don't know Carl...a lot of junior guys know that no furlough clauses are worthless. That card used to work, I think those days are long passed.

Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 1132288)

Speechless.

I wonder if the company asks pilots to do these things. Personally, I wouldn't have done it if asked. However, I feel a little ostracized from the rest of the employee group because we seem to never be involved in anything like this.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1132168)

I'm coming to the conclusion that most of our pilots are seriously under-estimating how much more the Southwest, UPS, and Fedex pilots make than us. I think most of the pilots on this board are pretty informed as a result of this board. We have pilots that think a 10-15 percent raise will put us on par with Southwest. That just is not true. It would have to be 45-50 percent to put us on par with Southwest. Thanks to ALPA's brilliant contract survey, the majority of our pilots really are uninformed.

Now I'll talk about our new reserve system. This is going to cause our pilots to fly all of his/her monthly trips in a short period of time. I just flew 9 days in a row. Now I'm in bucket 2 and probably won't fly for the rest of the month. Our senior pilots who have yet to fly will eventually be number 1 to go when everyone above them reaches bucket 2. They will then have to fly 8-9 days in a row as they will always be number 1 to go out. Now junior pilots will fly heavily in the first half of the month while senior pilots will fly heavily in the second half of the month. How is this better than what we had? I would have voted against this, but I did not have that option. DPA cannot come soon enough in my opinion.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1132296)

And yippie, another 8-12 pilot jobs gone to DCI.

Nu

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1132279)

Funny.

In reality, if they actually displace I wonder if they would approve leaves longer than the march 2013 timeframe.

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1132196)

You are underestimating the intelligence of most of your fellow pilots. Most of us are smart enough to figure out that the W2 is the bottom line. Not all are going to take the time to dig into the numbers though. For example, $186.06 (SWA's 12 year Captain rate) X 105 TFP (SWA's pilots average TFP/month) works out to exactly the same pay check as a rate of $244.21 X 80 hours in a month.

We get sucked into these rate comparisons because that is the easiest thing to compare. With SWA, it is truly an apples and oranges comparison. DALPA could have done a much more credible job of providing relevant info to the pilots it represents by providing a more realistic comparison with SWA.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1132252)

I'm sure they'll look the other way if you eat Turkey Bacon.