Anyone in attendance at the March LEC44 meeting heard Chairman Moak's presentation for themselves.

Alpha - what you and your group don't realize is that we are not your enemy. We (I in particular) do not advocate decertification. We advocate a change of course that has to occur if our union is going to remain relevant. I'd like nothing more than Lee to lead that change. He has done a good job in so many other areas.Sir you are exactly correct.

There is so much frustration over ALPA's failed scope policy that pilots are becoming more irrational in their demand for change. They need to understand "change" in our union is not good unless it has a foundation based on unity and objective analysis of our bargaining positions.

Just electing a more radical version of the status quo is not "change."

There are a quite a few Delta guys who complain Northwest pilots got everything, so in the end it seems as if Northwest ALPA was more effective than FDALPA. Or FDALPA was fearful of NWA ALPA, either way, seems like its a good infusion to the pilot group.

And we love you too man...

Our contracts were almost dollar for dollar similar. You got slightly better pay and we kept pensions. Your reserve days are fewer but our guarantee was 75 hours, etc.

What is rhetoric is your opinion of how bad the NWA contract was. The facts don't seem to sway you at all.

Again alfa, your opinion is fatally flawed. NWA pilots will bring a stiffening of the spine to this new pilot group. That is a fact. Will that change anything? Hard to tell.

Carl

I am very surprised that RAH bought MEH. I am wondering what they want to do with them.
I personally think that nothing can come from this. All I have to say is, if DAL sells CPS to RAH they are idiots.

I have feared DAL selling CPZ to RAH, I really really don't think it'd make sense to do so now in light of their purchase of F9 and Midwest but please promise you're not hearing rumors it could still happen.

IMHO it was on the table but they bought MEH, and now if they bought CPS they would just be too big. If they sell it, it would not be for RAH. Same reason they never sold OH to SKW. It is about too much control. (Just my thoughts)

Also MEH is probably a deal for all of those gates in MKE. This way they could package MEH and Frontier to AAI or LUV.
If they choose to keep them, they have in effect just created their own airline with the small jets, the medium jets and an avenue to get large jets. They truly will not need anyone one else, nor need to feed anyone.

I will say, I do think something is up with CPS.

I will say that them buying Frontier or MEH does not surprise me one bit. Both are great deals and makes sense.

Do you think RAH's moves caught DAL off guard?

OK, well....Now transferring Shuttle E175's to Compass makes sense. I see two obvious options:
(1) Grow Compass with a scope waiver that will be sold to the pilots as "enhanced flow down and furlough protection."
(2) Bring Compass on board with Delta. Then they are Delta's and can be operated unrestricted.

I base this on the hunches:
(1) that the Delta MEC appears to be looking the other way on the Shuttle America E175 Certified weight issue (they probably know the answer already, thus the "bring us the smoking gun before we act" position)
(2) furloughs are likely enough that both Delta and our MEC have been looking at the flow down arrangement and realizing (as I wrote a year ago) that it does not work (imagine an airline not keeping a promise of future employment :rolleyes: )
(3) both of these events trigger scope negotiations
(4) we know everyone has been at the table recently in scope negotiations. There is a TA on the joint codeshare with AF/KLM. Any other business discussed? Who knows?

No. Delta owned 49% of MidWest.