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boog123 02-19-2012 07:06 PM

What are the restrictions for end of the month swaps and drops? Are we allowed to trade a spill trip in March/April for another non-spill trip during March or just drop it if reserves are available?

Ferd149 02-19-2012 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1138156)
Nope.. not me.

So you say:D

Ferd149 02-19-2012 07:19 PM

I just want to go on record that it's cold'er n crap in ATL. How do ya'all live here?

PLUS, $8.50 for Jack?? Madness!

Wingnutdal 02-19-2012 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 1138066)
You weren't the Captain that got popped by the FO in NYC were you:D Apparently he didn't know how to fight or have the common sense not to try and pick up on the FO's girlfriend.

I flew with the other Captain who was on that trip, and that's not how the story went. As a matter of fact you're wrong with all of your statements. A lot more to it than that. Not for posting in public, but the FO wasn't a hero in that mess. Not at all.


Oooppppps. Just saw the smiley face.

80ktsClamp 02-19-2012 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1138167)
I just want to go on record that it's cold'er n crap in ATL. How do ya'all live here?

PLUS, $8.50 for Jack?? Madness!

How come all you crazies are passing through a-town and not wanting to hang out with your buddy Clamp? I'm starting to feel a bit isolated out here in the burbs with the hill folk and my banjo.

The whiskey is a lot cheaper up here. :)

BigGuns 02-19-2012 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 1137942)
Ouch, low blow!

Seriously, should I stick my head in the sand and ignore reality? SW rates would require, what, a 30-40% raise? Do you really think that is going to happen right now. AA in BK, SW saying their costs are too high, UAL, US and other airlines well below our current rates, and you think we will get a TA with a 30-40% raise?



Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1137960)
Do you think a majority of Delta pilots will vote yes to a TA that's status quo at 5% a year? I think the secretive contract survey results will likely show an average of 30% for a yes vote. Does the company really want an unresolved labor dispute to go on for months or years? I think not. And it's been stated by many others here that contract jobs overseas may become more appealing if the propsed contract is weak. If the company can raise fares to account for billions in year over year fuel price increases, they could cover the $470M or so it would cost for a 30% pilot pay increase.

Let us do some simple yet liberal math and understand the economies of scale here at Delta... Delta operates 800,000+ flights annually (not counting DCI).


$35,000 /yr raise
x12,000 pilots 1
------------------------
$420,000,000
/800,000 flts per year 2
------------------------
$525 per flight
/ 75 1st seats sold 3
------------------

$7.00 a ticket on 1st 75 seats sold to cover the pay increase 4
  1. 12,000 is more than the acuatlly number that would get the raise. (driving the cost lower)
  2. 800,000 does not including the DCI flights. (driving the cost lower)
  3. Delta has 710 aircraft with an averaged seat count of 174 seats. So with 80+% load factors Delta could easly spread that cost out over even more seats. (driving the cost lower)
  4. Without even including DCI in ticket sales cost can be spread out further:
  • $52.5 on 1st 10 seats sold,
  • $10 on 1st 53 seats sold,
  • $5.25 per ticket on 1st 100 seats sold,
  • $4.20 on 1st 120 seats sold, the more sold the lower and lower the cost.
These numbers are higher than the real cost when you add in DCI tickets, and real number of pilots on the payroll. Cargo and other ancillary revenue could also drive this cost even lower.

Delta Air Lines can afford a big pay raise, and ALPA needs to be communicating this type of info to its membership!!!

Ferd149 02-19-2012 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1138176)
How come all you crazies are passing through a-town and not wanting to hang out with your buddy Clamp? I'm starting to feel a bit isolated out here in the burbs with the hill folk and my banjo.

The whiskey is a lot cheaper up here. :)

I'm tak'en that as an an invite. I'll be back through on my DV8 deadhead next month. APC PARTY:D

(but it's another Sunday 11th:()

Uncle Ferd

chuck416 02-19-2012 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1137984)
I'm not talking about fighting him... not at all. But if.. as he claims.. I am management, and he tells me to kiss his ass that he is not going to wear his hat, my next question would be to ask him if his resume is up to date. If he were to be a Golden Gloves champ and hit me, well that would be a bonus. I know a few reeeeeeally good lawyers. :D I stopped physically fighting when I was 16.

Tsquare, if you "....stopped physically fighting when (you) were 16...", I would submit that you never really started physically fighting. Not trying to pick a fight here, but, really, c'mon...

Ferd149 02-19-2012 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1138187)
Tsquare, if you "....stopped physically fighting when (you) were 16...", I would submit that you never really started physically fighting. Not trying to pick a fight here, but, really, c'mon...

I'm not sure your point. Because it wasn't in a cage or what?

My last one was in college.....against a friend....I still regret it. Good on T

727C47 02-19-2012 08:16 PM

AMEN . good on T.


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