You think so? They only have 2300 active cards and to be counting the 2000 that are a year old is like counting chickens before the eggs hatch. They are done, but just don't know it. $55,000 in donations down the drain to LS.

I don't recall sailingfun making an argument to do a short term extension outside of Section, just that it may well happen. I recall him stating what he wanted for the life of the next contract in the hopes of getting one by the amendable date of our current one. Thus capitalizing on the time value of money now versus more money later after a longer negotiating time frame.

But here's an interesting question: If DALPA signs off on a two year extension with modest improvements with no meaningful scope recapture, and does so without MEMRAT, must we still not consider an in-house union given the fact that openers would be exchanged just 14 months later??

Carl

You don't know what you're talking about Clancy. Post your evidence and prove me wrong. And post it on the other thread please.

Carl

I think Bar should answer that question.

What are you basing your assertion that an extension may very well happen? Just curious.

I do agree with you that is an extension occurs without significant improvements, that there would be a riot. At this point though it is just useless conjecture and speculation based on nothing. I would think that any extension of this nature once section 6 begins, would require memrat, but I do not know the legalities. Maybe that stud Seehan can tell ya.:D

Initial "Sunshine" rate was $114, SWA during the same time frame was $129. Delta reversed the labor arbitrage and Express took 54 mainline airplanes. In January 2000 the Express rate was $127 and the SWA rate was $133. Then C2K raised the Express rates well above SWA, and within 2 years it was shut down.

Don't know, don't really care on an individual basis. By asking that question you're advancing Bob Crandall's "B" scale argument. It's not an argument I want make. I do know there were 3 year Express Captains with a lower payrate making a lot more than I was making on mainline due to GSWC. I also know our 73NG Captains were making more than anybody else in the industry.

It appears to me you're trying to read into this more than there is. At its simplest form, pilot labor arbitrage trades direct compensation rates for growth. That growth comes from a competitive advantage (undercutting your competition). The original AMR "B-scalers" had a very fast track to Captain. SWA had a very fast track to Captain, and because much of their compensation was stock based, those on the ground floor did really well as their company grew. Delta Express had a very fast track to Captain. All of those used labor wage rates as a competitive advantage to undercut established contracts.

Look at the regional industry for more examples. CMR and ASA have payrates that are pretty much in line with each other, but most of their Captains have 16-18 years longevity. Compass's most senior pilots have 5 years. That difference in longevity has created a labor arbitrage that's helping to kill the "legacy" regionals.

Yes clancy.. please take that to the other thread.

We are launching our version of the Trim Tab, to be called, The Torque Tube.

THE TORQUE TUBE
In this addition:

1. Yes we have a small surplus of pilots which isn't enough to handle life, 739s and all you who quit with little notice. So no early outs for you. So I guess it's really not a small surplus after all?

2. 17 DC-9s. Word.

3. The 6 month line check of 60+ is gone.

4. this goes with #3, they're anticipating another spike in STDs at the Villages.

http://www.55places.com/images/commu...llages2-11.jpg

:D

Nqat?
 

Anyone know what NQAT means on the pbs calendar?

I'm scheduled for initial training (again) in late april and it shows me in my future category for bidding purposes. Does this mean I won't fly in my current category the whole month leading up to training?

I don't start training until the 24th of April. 3.5 weeks of vacation? I'm sure I'm missing something as usual.

I'm thinking maybe Non Qualified Awaiting Training?? :confused:

Not close to what I meant and you know it. You can obfuscate matters to avoid admitting you are wrong, or like the recent CASM discussion you can simply ignore it and hope it goes away....whatever you choose, good luck to you.