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Old 03-06-2012 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyinrob
Im new to the industry and have a question about pay. Why don't pilots get paid while waiting at an airport between flights? You're still at work and hanging out where the company sent you. Is this issue brought up every now and then?
Duty, trip, and day rigs help to mitigate this to a degree...
Old 03-06-2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Yes. We are only paid when cleared to push until the airplane is stopped. Brought up? Yes. Change? Would love too.
That's where our work rules suck. SWA has a 6 Hour/day minimum. The average guy only works 12-13 days/month to get their Average Pay - $230 for CA and $130 for F/Os. We need to get our duty rigs (work day) and trip rigs (TAFB) up so if we have long sits during a day or long layovers (30 hour plus) then we get paid appropriately to force the company to use us efficiently or pay us for the time we're at work (I define at work as Sign in (1 hour before 1st push) to sign out (1/2 hour after landing). If they want us to sit around during a day or during a trip we need to be compensated for that (also other paid work QCQ, sims, vacation). Min pay/day (whether you fly or not) is 5:15 (5:30/5:45 would be better), QCQ is one minute of pay for each minute of running time, vacation needs be the same as pay/day and should be pay and credit - that way if you run into a good deal during the part of the month you work you'll have enough hours to get GS pay or if you WS you can put something away.
Old 03-06-2012 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
And it used to suck before the out of hand bucket ranges. Now it sucks worse.
Agreed. That's why I'm bidding down to the DC-9. I'm tired of VNAV screwing up anyway. I'd rather just screw everything up myself.
Old 03-06-2012 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
80ktsclamp's Facebook photos:





Wait, wha?!?
I think he's the Costco tire guy. She came in for a rotation and now they are celebrating the results with a professional photo. Could happen. My wife thinks our Costco guys are cute
Old 03-06-2012 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
Of course you have zero influence on the ads. That's a red herring.

Did you know about the ad before it was posted? Were you instructed to plug it?

very peculiar timing for one or more mods to bring up the topic, unsolicited, on this thread.
Do I really care what banner ads are on the site.:roll eyes: If you are really concerned read The Puzzle Palace by Bamford written in 1983

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Old 03-06-2012 | 05:32 PM
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I like the buckets and wish they were larger. I'm junior reserve and commute. Prior to the bucket system I was not flying at all, now I fly every time I'm on call. Hope its not a fluke. Beats sitting SC at a hotel or a crashpad. Seniority should have its perks. You must live in base.


Originally Posted by Jesse
And it used to suck before the out of hand bucket ranges. Now it sucks worse.
Old 03-06-2012 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BigGuns
Now I don't know the context here, however Facebook's privacy policy does state anything posted on Facebook is public domain. This from Facebook's privacy policy: "...Just like when you share information by email or elsewhere on the web, information you share on Facebook can be re-shared. This means that if you share something on Facebook, anyone who can see it can share it with others, including the games, applications, and websites they use...."

I understand taking the high ground, and posters should use discretion, but no reason to close a thread....
When someone had pictures that only "friends" can see and they post that picture, and said person has a serious issue with it, we have an issue. Point is do not post pictures that are not on a public site. Pictures of co-workers that are behind a mask of "friendship" do not qualify in my book nor hers. Point is, don't do it. Warning stands, we do not need to increase visibility or liability of any pilots that are on this thread.

The picture in question was self edited, but the quotes were not. Be smart, we are less than a month away from openers, no one needs to invite anything on themselves. If limiting the damage means closing a thread, I will do it. The issue is resolved, but make sure that we do not have this sort of issue again. As long as we don't there is nothing to worry about. It is more about pilot liability than APC liability.
Old 03-06-2012 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Gloopy,


You misinterpreted my post - I was merely clarifying - not advocating. As a matter of fact I pretty much agree with everything you posted above.

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Got ya. Its just interesting that we get one of the "bridge to nowhere" deals back on the eve of section 6 with everyone trying to figure out what our guys are thinking we're thinking and where they plan on going from present position.

There is more than enough "restoration" (or to be fair just profitable LCC parity) in pay, scope and equitable work rules like across the board trip/duty rigs, min day, sick and especially vacation time improvements, reserve rules and most importnatly scope for us to be spending one second of "negotiating capital" on the triple dip featherbedding stuff. That is, unless we are on the verge of getting it *all* back.
Old 03-06-2012 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
When someone had pictures that only "friends" can see and they post that picture, and said person has a serious issue with it, we have an issue. Point is do not post pictures that are not on a public site. Pictures of co-workers that are behind a mask of "friendship" do not qualify in my book nor hers. Point is, don't do it. Warning stands, we do not need to increase visibility or liability of any pilots that are on this thread.

The picture in question was self edited, but the quotes were not. Be smart, we are less than a month away from openers, no one needs to invite anything on themselves. If limiting the damage means closing a thread, I will do it. The issue is resolved, but make sure that we do not have this sort of issue again. As long as we don't there is nothing to worry about. It is more about pilot liability than APC liability.
What was posted?
Old 03-06-2012 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
What was posted?
Someone with a lizard on their avatar posted a picture that he lifted off his FAs Facebook page. She was wearing a swimsuit and wasn't too hard on the eyes.

Then Bar pointed out an "oddity" on the picture and ruined the mood.

Then ACL did some detective work and shut down the shenannigans, but not before Clamp figured out who she was and stalker-bid the month of April with her.

And the rest you can figure out reading the last three pages.
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