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Old 03-07-2012, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat View Post
That's not how it's playing out here on the left coast. Just saw the #1 CA commute in to sit SC for the fourth time. He doesn't think he's running roughshod over anybody.
SC is controlled by scheduling. Him flying in for SC and not flying while the junior folks have 150+ raw score is controlled by the over-respecting seniority reserve system.

Not to single you out since this is a company issue. It seems like the new reserve system is akin to a senior line holder dropping a drip onto your line and you having to fly it while he doesent and still gets paid.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Express pilot View Post
What month does the SC use seniority? How does it work? Does a junior guy get 3 before the senior does 1? Or is it still just a crapshoot.
I didn't think it started until May but 80ktsClamp stated differently so I could be wrong. I'm also in training right now so I'm out of the rsv loop.

The SC buckets run 0-2, 3-5, and 6+. SC's are assigned in the following order starting with the first bucket.

YS request for SC in seniority order
Assigned to pilots not requesting in inverse seniority order
Once bucket one is exhausted they jump to the second bucket and start the process over.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg View Post
As Sailing would say.......wait for it......"we can't even ask for better duty and trip rigs.... We aren't Southwest!!!!"
More like he would come up with a reason why a 6hr rig would be bad and explain that we don't want to have rules like SW. He'd also finish it off with go there if you don't like it here. The whole time thinking to himself, Delta is the best airline in the world and there is no better place to work., everyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.

Meanwhile in reality.....
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch View Post
SC is controlled by scheduling. Him flying in for SC and not flying while the junior folks have 150+ raw score is controlled by the over-respecting seniority reserve system.

Not to single you out since this is a company issue. It seems like the new reserve system is akin to a senior line holder dropping a drip onto your line and you having to fly it while he doesent and still gets paid.
Yeah there's more to this captain's story. Must be a small category, he is bidding to work weekends, or both. If you are the guy you're yhe guy....buckets and seniority be damned.

The new system is fine in construction but the buckets are too big as it's been said a hundred times. 60 Raw and I think it would be a lot better for everyone except those who are now on an almost permanent paid vacation. There's something wrong with a system that forces the vast majority of work on a few while paying others the same or more to do nothing. There's a reason communism failed.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:16 AM
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RE: New Short Call bidding system and NYC Co-Terminal INformation
Hello fellow pilots I talked to SD at alpa yesterday to answer a few of my questions regarding the new short call rules coming into effect may 1 and here is what he said.
It will be similar to the bucket system now 0,1,2 (short calls assigned)will be a bucket and 3,4,5 will be a short call bucket. Also there will be a bucket with days of avail. You will have 3 or more as one Days of avail bucket and 1 and 2 days of avail as another bucket. What sked will do the day before is post (for example) we need 1 short call guy from the days of avail bucket of 3 or greater for a PM short call and we need 2 guys from the days of avail bucket 1,2 for an AM short call. You will then be able to preference if you want a short call, or one that starts in a time frame from 7 to 9 am was the example he gave.
assigning short calls will be like trip assignment. If someone has a preference for an AM short call they will get it if they are in the same days of avail bucket and the same number of short calls used bucket the short call assignment is coming out of. If there is no one that wants it then it will go to the most junior guy.
Part 2 regarding NYC i was asking about naming a co-terminal for commuting in with the first 2 hours used to commute it. He said you do not have to set one co-terminal and stick with it the assumption was you can change it. If today the EWR flight looks the best you can designate that one as your 2 hour short call airport and next week u can designate LGA.
If you use your two hours to commute to EWR then they have to give you more time to get to lga if they want u there.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Herman View Post
Shameless plug for your family business.

While we're at it, if anyone needs a kitchen remodel in SLC call my family's business. Wasatch Construction.

See the tastelessness?
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead View Post
Anyone know if Hemorrhoids qualify as an OJI (On The Job Injury) ?

My wife (former F/A) says Pilots never get hemorrhoids.

Why?

Because we are 'perfect a-holes' !
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD View Post
I like the buckets and wish they were larger. I'm junior reserve and commute. Prior to the bucket system I was not flying at all, now I fly every time I'm on call. Hope its not a fluke. Beats sitting SC at a hotel or a crashpad. Seniority should have its perks. You must live in base.
While I understand everyone has different desires, I think it's fair to say you are in the minority. I commute to reserve as well and frankly I have no desire to ever fly on every day of availability, I'd much rather be at home. This especially irritating when you watch the other 3/4's of your category doing virtually nothing. Making the first bucket top at 60 raw probably wouldn't change your ability to fly a lot if you desired. It just wouldn't force those of us who don't desire to fly everyday of availability only to be paid the same as those who none.

ALPA just sold ALL of the QOL jr pilots had in favor of giving it to senior guys. I felt like I was at a regional again during February.
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:39 AM
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What is the staffing level like? Are you guys going to hire anytime soon?
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Old 03-07-2012, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FL410 View Post
What is the staffing level like? Are you guys going to hire anytime soon?
We are hiring. Send your application to Hawaiian and Alaska. Those are Delta's West coast operation carriers.

In all seriousness, IT CHANGES DAILY. I know, unless we outsource more, then we need to start the interview machine pretty soon.

Good luck, whom are you furloughed from.

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